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Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Post by azinman2 »

bsd44 wrote: post #241
artificialLimbs wrote: post #18

>> Windows 10 was released in July 2015 and dubbed "Windows as a service" Can we please have 7 back, with its complete lack of built in ads, dark patterns ramming the Microsoft browser down your throat, telemetry everywhere (the calculator, really?), changes for the sake of showing that some manager did something rather than functionality (Rename this PC -> Rename this PC (Advanced))? Windows 10 still regularly shows…

You should look into an alternative then. Linux is quite beginner friendly these days and with Wine you can emulate pretty much any Windows application if that's what's holding you back from switching. If not then MacOS is the way to go. If you really want to go "back" then you should have a look at ReactOS which is a sort of an open-source Windows clone. I can't comment on recent Windows-related event as XP was the…

> Wine you can emulate pretty much any Windows application if that's what's holding you back from switching.

That’s just not true. I wish it were but much of the real pro software you can’t get in Linux doesn’t worn.

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Post by lozaning »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #105
artificialLimbs wrote: post #18

>> Windows 10 was released in July 2015 and dubbed "Windows as a service" Can we please have 7 back, with its complete lack of built in ads, dark patterns ramming the Microsoft browser down your throat, telemetry everywhere (the calculator, really?), changes for the sake of showing that some manager did something rather than functionality (Rename this PC -> Rename this PC (Advanced))? Windows 10 still regularly shows…

It’s called Windows 10 LTSC and it’s great. Sadly, Microsoft won’t sell it to you. But it’s... out there.

Windows 10 LTS is all fun and games until you've got a samsung laptop, where the only supported way to load all the drivers is through their app on the Windows store, which does not work/isnt installed on LTS.

Honestly though, not having my hardware volume keys work is a small price to pay for not having the regular windows 10 garbage.

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Post by neatze »

bserge wrote: post #180
kathoum wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. I switched from 7 to 10 when it was offered. I stayed with 10 for about one year, and I liked it thanks to all the fixes and improvements and despite the occasional quirk. But after one year, I realized my computer didn't feel like it was mine anymore. I jumped to linux and never went back.

I like reading these kinds of comments, but then I snap back to reality. It's easier to make Windows 10 behave than make Linux actually work properly beyond a browser and an editor.

this is just false.

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Post by sprkwd »

ljm wrote: post #218
partiallypro wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think just calling it "Windows" is a fail. Even OSes that are updated constantly still have release numbers (iOS, Android, MacOS.) It helps customers understand the milestones behind the OS development and assists with marketing.

Maybe they'll take a leaf from Apple's book and start naming each release after locations in Seattle, or Washington.

Or by naming releases after companies they have bought and then closed.

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Post by mixmastamyk »

bsd44 wrote: post #241
artificialLimbs wrote: post #18

>> Windows 10 was released in July 2015 and dubbed "Windows as a service" Can we please have 7 back, with its complete lack of built in ads, dark patterns ramming the Microsoft browser down your throat, telemetry everywhere (the calculator, really?), changes for the sake of showing that some manager did something rather than functionality (Rename this PC -> Rename this PC (Advanced))? Windows 10 still regularly shows…

You should look into an alternative then. Linux is quite beginner friendly these days and with Wine you can emulate pretty much any Windows application if that's what's holding you back from switching. If not then MacOS is the way to go. If you really want to go "back" then you should have a look at ReactOS which is a sort of an open-source Windows clone. I can't comment on recent Windows-related event as XP was the…

I remember being angry about “activation.” sigh, the good old days.

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Post by throw_m239339 »

knolan wrote: post #15

Microsoft really needs to consider building a completely new OS that doesn’t have the legacy issues that plague Windows 10. It feels like the paint cracks off as you root around each generation of interface. By all means keep a LTS version of Windows, but draw a line.

So I'm a musician, I use a lot of pro-audio hardware and it's a miracle that some gear requiring 15 year old drivers are still willing to run on W10. I'd like to keep it that way if possible.

Now I understand the idea behind technical debt, however backward compatibility is one of Window's biggest strength, so if a new OS has to be designed, it should be considered carefully.

Obviously open source drivers when needed or strict class compliance should be what manufacturers strive for today.

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Post by zdiscov »

Windows 10 did the unthinkable for me. It made my house Windows free since 1998, in 2020!

Now I have two Ubuntu 20.04 laptops - Toshiba SatellitePro and Dell Inspiron. Windows 10 broke the Toshiba touchpad and wouldn't upgrade from 8.1 without fits, seizures and loss of data. With Snap I was able to port most of my MS Office and other windows software.

TBH, Dell did have issues around the infamous Nvidia display drivers that would freeze the screen needing a hard reboot. But at least my laptops are able to bounce back to enjoy the rest of their natural life!

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Post by bgeeek »

bsd44 wrote: post #241
artificialLimbs wrote: post #18

>> Windows 10 was released in July 2015 and dubbed "Windows as a service" Can we please have 7 back, with its complete lack of built in ads, dark patterns ramming the Microsoft browser down your throat, telemetry everywhere (the calculator, really?), changes for the sake of showing that some manager did something rather than functionality (Rename this PC -> Rename this PC (Advanced))? Windows 10 still regularly shows…

You should look into an alternative then. Linux is quite beginner friendly these days and with Wine you can emulate pretty much any Windows application if that's what's holding you back from switching. If not then MacOS is the way to go. If you really want to go "back" then you should have a look at ReactOS which is a sort of an open-source Windows clone. I can't comment on recent Windows-related event as XP was the…

Linux was quite beginner friendly twenty plus years ago, IME. Remember Mandrake Linux? Then you had Ubuntu ten years ago! It's had enough time. The one thing that used to repeatedly make me chuckle was the "This will be the year of the Linux desktop" stories, which seemed to appear almost yearly! :)

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Post by eloff »

bsd44 wrote: post #241
artificialLimbs wrote: post #18

>> Windows 10 was released in July 2015 and dubbed "Windows as a service" Can we please have 7 back, with its complete lack of built in ads, dark patterns ramming the Microsoft browser down your throat, telemetry everywhere (the calculator, really?), changes for the sake of showing that some manager did something rather than functionality (Rename this PC -> Rename this PC (Advanced))? Windows 10 still regularly shows…

You should look into an alternative then. Linux is quite beginner friendly these days and with Wine you can emulate pretty much any Windows application if that's what's holding you back from switching. If not then MacOS is the way to go. If you really want to go "back" then you should have a look at ReactOS which is a sort of an open-source Windows clone. I can't comment on recent Windows-related event as XP was the…

One can complain about Windows, but at the end of the day I have way more issues with desktop Linux (which I use principally.)

I find myself in an awkward situation where I don't like any of the three major desktop operating systems for different reasons. It's more a matter of picking the one that's less bad. Currently for me that's Linux for work, Windows for games, and Mac for a laptop.

I need a new laptop next year. I'll probably go for a Windows laptop where I can dual boot Linux.

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