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Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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I have a Win 7 laptop from 2011 that honestly runs faster than a modern desktop with twice the RAM running Win 10. Had Win 10 since 2015 and it seems to be getting slower with each update. Which flavour of Linux is closest to 'just works'? Mint?

Fedora with KDE or Gnome probably? It has fairly fast updates for their software repositories but is still stable and will just chug along without breaking things. Also historically it's very good at upgrading major OS versions without any trouble.

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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post #68

It's an interesting experiment to ask the average Microsoft Windows user to identify - let's say 5 things - in their current workflows, that they couldn't do in Microsoft Windows XP (or 7, etc - pick the subject's age-appropriate release). Similarly for versions of Microsoft Office products.

Virtual Desktops Hyper-v Default notepad that understands linux style line endings Default ISO mounting support without having to download sketchy tools Default ZIP support without having to download winrar

While you are right that older Notepads were annoying because they could not handle other line endings except CR LF, Wordpad could always handle them.

So the solution on Windows XP or other old Windows versions was to change all text file associations from Notepad to Wordpad and everything was fine.

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Funny story. Most recent Windows10 update broke Fusion360's ability to do some things. In my case (and that of my customer) it crashed every time we went to export the CAM processor for the PCB export in the electronics section. Happened after Saturday's big update too. But if I use Win7 it exports just fine...even though there is big flags everywhere saying don't use Win7 with Fusion. The only reason I don't go to l…

Basically the same boat here, good modern cad software is still a windows only thing.

I've used freecad and and it.. works for simple stuff, but it has a really long way to go.

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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post #145

I wonder if they will force you to have a Microsoft account with the next OS release. So far, you can avoid it (if you try) on windows 10.

People talking about dark patterns here - but the dark patterns to persuade you that you need a microsoft account to install Win10 is awful! And to add salt to the wound, the way microsoft accounts are managed on Win10 especially with MS Teams is a total mess.

Yes it's crazy how hard they work to hide the local account option.

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like "a new OS" just means a few Windows user interface tweaks.

To be fair, some major changes are not directly user-visible. For example, Microsoft created a new programming language (called "P") to rewrite the USB stack in Windows 8 or 8.1 that allegedly made that part more secure/reliable. EDIT: I suppose there is a certain pressure to mess with the UI, so non-technical people will "see" the difference. Some changes have been genuine improvements, IMHO, like AeroSnap or the se…

> P") to rewrite the USB stack in Windows 8 or 8.1 that allegedly made that part more secure/reliable.

I wonder if that's why even on a gaming desktop USBs default to "turn off power to preserve battery" which made my keyboard stutter, and I had to turn off this setting from Device Manager.

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Honestly, HN may want to just consider banning any site that runs this news article from being posted on HN, because this claim is basically proof they did not do even cursory research before posting. Here's the 2015 story covering this date announcement, which bears no relation to recent rumors at all: https://www.ghacks.net/2015/07/20/microsoft-to-support-windo...

You want to ban.....the BBC?

I vote for the ban and suggest France24 instead.

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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I think I'm getting old. In my memory, Windows 10 is still "the new thing" that released not so long ago :-]

I still use 7, because of inertia and it's hard to change something that "just works" (read: I know its shortcomings by heart so I don't even need to think about how to avoid them), and also it accumulates years of fine tunings, configurations, and personalization.

Also I bought a laptop that "already" came with 10, and oh boy it didn't do a good job of convincing me to upgrade my main computer.

Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OS stability is not the thing that people are concerned about when criticising Windows 10. What has made me turn away from windows is the complete lack of trust I have that the OS will respect my privacy.

This. I switched from 7 to 10 when it was offered. I stayed with 10 for about one year, and I liked it thanks to all the fixes and improvements and despite the occasional quirk. But after one year, I realized my computer didn't feel like it was mine anymore. I jumped to linux and never went back.

I like reading these kinds of comments, but then I snap back to reality. It's easier to make Windows 10 behave than make Linux actually work properly beyond a browser and an editor.
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