Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff

linux.chat

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

101–110 of 203 posts

Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff

#101

Post by pvtmert »

inshadows wrote: post #8

The thing is, most people will just stay, and the freak behind Freenode will have numbers to back up his claims, that his "community" is strong. Who knows how many of those users just keep running irssi in screen or have it configured on bouncer, checking it once a year when they need to ask question. Maybe over long time, the numbers will shift. But most people just don't care about the platform they chat through.

Channel takeovers were mostly done by re-creating channels, which causes everyone to be kicked from a channel.

Also, yes there are lots of idle people but at the same time when nobody responds to them with ~50ppl to the room, they will eventually wonder why.

Plus channels having no op (Just chanserv), maybe freenode staff. Which will look even weirder than usual.

Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff

#102

Post by fairity »

If you remove the editorialization of events, it seems like the primary motivation here is to merge the ##linux and #linux channels, which actually makes sense from a new user perspective. It was always odd to me that some channel names had a double hash, while others had a single hash (and the two can co-exist iirc).

Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff

#103

Post by hu3 »

techrat wrote: post #55
danaris wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's clear from Lee's words and actions that that's exactly what he thought. That, combined with a fragile ego and controlling personality, led very predictably to him reacting to people starting to talk about leaving by trying to tighten his grip on everything—and everything slipping through his fingers.

> That, combined with a fragile ego and controlling personality... Oh, people barely know the half of it... and for those wondering just how bad it can get, peruse one of the court cases currently against him personally. https://corrupt.tech/1708590130-ocr-compressed.pdf

> Plaintiffs noticed that Lee was a habitual user of marijuana and cocaine, and would frequently abuse drugs in the office in front of his employees.

WTF

Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff

#104

Post by tauntz »

andai wrote: post #10

Seriously, what's the matter with this guy? I thought he was just really naive but I can't see an explanation for doing something like this that isn't malicious.

> Seriously, what's the matter with this guy?

According to https://corrupt.tech/1708590130-ocr-compressed.pdf:

> During this time, however, Plaintiffs became concerned with Lee's mental wellbeing and his ability to lead LTM and PIA. Plaintiffs noticed that Lee was a habitual user of marijuana and cocaine, and would frequently abuse drugs in the office _in front of his employees. Lee often combined his drug use with alcohol and would act erratically.

> For example, he told-LTM employees that he wanted to hire a female candidate simply because he wanted to have sex with her. Similarly, Lee expressed his desire to set up a "modeling agency" in the Hollywood Hills that would actually be a front for illegal prostitution (i.e., the "models" would be paid escorts). To that end, Lee circulated a memo to male LTM executives advising them to make sure and wear condoms when having sex with the "models." Lee went so far as to state that he planned to move LTM's offices to the Hollywood Hills mansion once the "modeling agency" was set up

Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff

#105

Post by whatshisface »

joepie91_ wrote: post #90
inshadows wrote: post #8

The thing is, most people will just stay, and the freak behind Freenode will have numbers to back up his claims, that his "community" is strong. Who knows how many of those users just keep running irssi in screen or have it configured on bouncer, checking it once a year when they need to ask question. Maybe over long time, the numbers will shift. But most people just don't care about the platform they chat through.

> But most people just don't care about the platform they chat through. People love to throw this sentiment around literally every time any kind of platform does something shitty, and it's certainly very effective at demotivating people from even trying to do anything about it. It would be great if people stopped claiming this, because it's really not helping anybody and makes the job of resolving governance issues s…

I think there's a spectrum of caring. Facebook users barely comprehend what their platform is doing to them, IRC users would get ham radio callsigns if they needed to.

Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff

#106

Post by gsich »

shadowgovt wrote: post #79
unixhero wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a flourishing community of the interwebs maybe, just maybe. IRC as a tool is certainly not dead. Former IRCOP.

How does IRC work on mobile these days? Last time I used IRC seriously, I had to get off the train because I was chatting more on mobile than not and the mobile clients were basically un-serviceable (IIRC, protocol is too chatty and stateful for reliable connection on a device continuously changing its physical network connection).

Like in past days. If you have a working OS (ie not iOS) you can use it fine. Otherwise use Lounge or something similar.

Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff

#107

Post by ConcernedCoder »

craftinator wrote: post #52
zatertip wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Events up until May 24th: https://gist.github.com/joepie91/df80d8d36cd9d1bde46ba018af4... After that, at every turn when Andrew Lee has been given the choice between doing the right thing and acting like a comic book villain, he has chosen the latter. Removed any restraint on staff, tried to bribe FOSSHOST to be the face of his operations, hired known trolls and right-wing extremists as staff. More materially, he has…

All of this really puts Lee's evangelizing of Private Internet Access into a new light, doesn't it?

Lee ... founded popular VPN company Private Internet Access, LTMI, which last year sold to an Israeli cybersecurity firm for $95.5 million.

IMHO, at this point you need to seriously consider the possibility that everything he's touched, including Freenode, could be compromised in some way, if not already a literal "honeypot"...

Off-topic: I love his new house: https://www.insider.com/south-korean-royals-california-mansi...

Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff

#108

Post by [deleted] »

tyingq wrote: post #29

Freenode: Current global users 49980 Libera: Current global users 32769 Freenode's decline in users over the past month: http://www.hinner.com/ircstat/Socip_F_2.gif Comparison showing Freenode decline and Libera rise: https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php Probably won't be long before Freenode is effectively dead. Edit: Also see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27502059 for a projection and more stats.

[deleted]

Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff

#109

Post by wizzwizz4 »

darklion wrote: post #77
skrause wrote: post #6

Why doesn't the new Freenode staff just shut down the IRC servers? That would be a lot less work than killing off each channel individually.

That's sort of my question. What's the end goal for Freenode? They're burning the network to the ground. Is there some positive outcome for them here that I'm missing?

Once they've burnt it to the ground, they'll have a blank slate. It looks like they're trying to make a job board for channers…? It might work; I'm confused enough to think I'm missing something. If others feel that same confusion, Lee's Freenode might be able to get some venture capital.

Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff

#110

Post by wizzwizz4 »

Aeolun wrote: post #42
GekkePrutser wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More stats: https://isfreenodedeadyet.com

I miss a big button saying ‘NO, freenode is not dead yet’ on that website :/

At what threshold would you change it? A thousand users? Three users?
Post reply on HN