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Re: There is no Jake Frink

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Post by angryasian »

mlinsey wrote: post #13

OK, so this is the second time in a week I'm going to have to post this PG quote: "Your comment is a classic instance of people on a forum rushing to judgment based on incomplete information. It's isomorphic to the sort of thing one sees on reddit, except that it's about startups rather than the federal government or international bankers." Edit: it looks like Jiggity (aka Jong-Moon Kim, Warp Prism's creator) has gon…

I think they are more upset that he is denying ad income from JTV streamers and putting up his own ads. Also intentionally misleading the community, why not be upfront from the beginning.

Re: There is no Jake Frink

#32

Post by angryasian »

athst wrote: post #12
timsally wrote: post #4

I've been using Teevox (Warp Prism) since the first version was released on Reddit. For those unfamiliar, it is a web application that provides a convenient interface to watch the video streams of professional Starcraft players. It was marketed as the effort of a single developer, a labor of love. Donations were solicited to that effect and I'll admit I was taken in by the whole thing. The narrative was appealing to…

They were taking donations in the name of a fake person? At first it sounded like they just got caught doing a harmless marketing ploy, but if they were taking donations, that's way worse.

I think whats way worse is not only denying the JTV streamers ad income they deserve, but showing their own ads.

Re: There is no Jake Frink

#33

Post by dooraven »

angryasian wrote: post #31
mlinsey wrote: post #13

OK, so this is the second time in a week I'm going to have to post this PG quote: "Your comment is a classic instance of people on a forum rushing to judgment based on incomplete information. It's isomorphic to the sort of thing one sees on reddit, except that it's about startups rather than the federal government or international bankers." Edit: it looks like Jiggity (aka Jong-Moon Kim, Warp Prism's creator) has gon…

I think they are more upset that he is denying ad income from JTV streamers and putting up his own ads. Also intentionally misleading the community, why not be upfront from the beginning.

He's not though, only Pre-stream ads are disabled due to the problems it would cause while switching streams.

All the ads that use "/commerical" work fine

Re: There is no Jake Frink

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Post by angryasian »

dooraven wrote: post #33
angryasian wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they are more upset that he is denying ad income from JTV streamers and putting up his own ads. Also intentionally misleading the community, why not be upfront from the beginning.

He's not though, only Pre-stream ads are disabled due to the problems it would cause while switching streams. All the ads that use "/commerical" work fine

ok he's not blocking all, he's blocking the most revenue generating ads for the streamers. As a streamer the pre-roll ad is the most important and brings in the most revenue.

Re: There is no Jake Frink

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Post by jakefink »

mlinsey wrote: post #13

OK, so this is the second time in a week I'm going to have to post this PG quote: "Your comment is a classic instance of people on a forum rushing to judgment based on incomplete information. It's isomorphic to the sort of thing one sees on reddit, except that it's about startups rather than the federal government or international bankers." Edit: it looks like Jiggity (aka Jong-Moon Kim, Warp Prism's creator) has gon…

John Frink is "obviously a pseudonym"

Jake Frink and using this persona to interact with so many people is going to raise questions when it is all fake. You think anyone would hesitate to email jiggity at gmail or respond to a reddit user name jiggity or jwk or anything else?

I would say it is based on sounding white, but it makes no sense to hide korean name when you are catering to a Starcraft community.

Re: There is no Jake Frink

#36

Post by robhu »

gojomo wrote: post #17

There's no Jake Frink? Next thing you'll be telling me there is no Satoshi Nakamoto! There'll always be an Alan Smithee, though, right?

The difference is that Satoshi is a known alias, whereas this is intentional deception.

Re: There is no Jake Frink

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Post by iphoneedbot »

shii wrote: post #2

Seems a lot of the newer YC bunch are playing dirty to win. pg encourages[1] this naughtiness, but I wonder if they sometimes go too far and what the recourse is after brand damage like this and a major shunning from the very communities they're targeting for. Startups like Airbnb which have engaged in this sort of behavior are a little entrenched by now and have considerable traction, but for littler guys like Teevo…

Im very surprised by the reactions overall (over here on HN) I wonder IF these shenanigans were done by a NON YC funded company - if it would be responded to with more critical cynicism.

edit: teevox is said to be a now defunct YC S10 start. edit2: the video explanation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiRzBnlbpUs (hat tip)

Re: There is no Jake Frink

#38

Post by Tichy »

I must admit from this reddit excerpt I can not infer what is going on, except that somebody used a fake name on Reddit (the horror). Would be thankful for explanations.
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