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This seems to say his proposed "Theory of everything" is lacking in several regards and not a good candidate for scientific or academic research. I don't see how that makes him a clown. He's interested in physics, educated in it, and made some effort to contribute that doesn't seem to have panned out. That strikes me as laudable behavior and not like a "clown". Perhaps you'll say he is a clown because he really belie…

The term Weinstein prefers for himself is "entertainer": https://geometricunity.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/Geometric... > The Author is not a physicist and is no longer an active academician, but is an Entertainer and host of The Portal podcast. This work of entertainment is a draft of work in progress which is the property of the author and thus may not be built upon, renamed, or profited from without express permi…

I don't think he much cares for labels, a form of gatekeeping, and so he's likely trolling if he calls himself an entertainer.

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Have you read the FDA's article? Let me summarize. Thou shalt not use Ivermectin because: > Ivermectin tablets are approved [...] for some parasitic worms. > Taking large doses of this drug is dangerous and can cause serious harm. (Unlike any other drug.) > There’s a lot of misinformation around, and you may have heard that it’s okay to take large doses of ivermectin. ...while also... > The FDA has not reviewed data…

> > Ivermectin tablets are approved [...] some parasitic worms. Doctors prescribe stuff off-label all the time. I've taken off-label prescriptions before. Our son takes off-label prescriptions. The fact that X has not been approved for Y doesn't mean much. Now that's not saying anyone should take ivermectin for COVID-19. I myself probably wouldn't, and if a doctor wanted to prescribe it to me I'd be sceptical. But my…

Here is a protocol for Ivermectin that is in use today: https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/

That website is run by FLCCC / Pierre Kory

Here is a video about Ivermectin for covid, with Pierre Kory: https://youtu.be/4O7uy4tzI8A

Re: “YouTube is shutting down dissenting Biology PhDs and MDs”

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Ivermectin is not a newly-discovered drug. There were hundereds of millions of courses administered world wide (it even got a Nobel prize). It has been used for decades. [1] The only unknown right now is the long term effect of ivermectin in patients with covid. It seems to me that it's the same unknown as with the vaccines. You don't have a clinical trial for effects of the vaccines after 5 years, do you? Why don't…

> There were hundereds of millions of courses administered world wide Except that the doses involved are way lower than what's being speculated about (on flimsy evidence) as a possible COVID-19 treatment. And this drug has severe side effects at such higher doses. There's no way in hell that this stuff is ever going to be safer than mRNA vaccines, let alone more effective.

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Re: “YouTube is shutting down dissenting Biology PhDs and MDs”

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A quick search on pubmed shows that limited trials on Ivermectin have been done, and more trials are underway.

It certainly seems to work in vitro, but needs higher concentrations than have been tested to be safe in vivo so far.

So... it sort of depends on what the people were saying in their videos. If they're saying it's a possible hopeful contender for near future: that's true.

If they're saying "buy lots of ivermectin now", without any qualifying statements, that might be different.

Re: “YouTube is shutting down dissenting Biology PhDs and MDs”

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I think arguing that supportive care is grossly suboptimal is going to be a pretty difficult take to sustain, given that a huge majority of the infected manage a full recovery from SARS-CoV-2 with no treatment at all. This complicates the cost-benefit outlook for any early treatment; it would be entirely wasted on those patients, while the potential for severe side effects (as seen also, e.g. from HCQ) would remain.

Then why administer the vaccines? (With potential side effects due to the short period of clinical trials compared to the use of Ivermectin.) The way to control the epidemic is to make enough people immune to drive it to extinction. It would be preferable to use all available means to attain that. This way you protect all people (not only the people who got the treatment), including the vulnerable ones.

Driving the SARS-CoV-2 virus to extinction is not a viable goal any time soon. Unlike smallpox there are animal reservoirs.

Re: “YouTube is shutting down dissenting Biology PhDs and MDs”

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post #89

Wish a day could go by where i don’t here from a weinstein about how they are being silenced

...but they are being silenced. Are you really not aware of the level of wrongthink censorship going on? Things are literally being proven true that were censored as "misinformation"(wrongthink) a month ago. Next up: election was actually a huge fraud.

This is HN, full of as many ideologues as anywhere else, perhaps on average of higher intellect - though as Jordan Peterson mentions in Beyond Order - intelligent ideologues are the most dangerous.

Re: “YouTube is shutting down dissenting Biology PhDs and MDs”

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What else should scientists do than challenging the status quo? Bret (Eric's brother, biology PhD) had a 2h long conversation with Pierre Kory (MD) and it was taken down by YT. One of the things they talked was the recommendations of WHO and other organisations to focus on supportive care only (supporting the patient while their organism fights the disease by itself). They insist on not using other treatments outside…

> What else should scientists do than challenging the status quo? Sure, and I rather suspect there are all sorts of venues that scientists could use to communicate scientific reasons challenging the status quo, ones in which there'd be a process of discourse with other domain experts capable of independently evaluating claims. YouTube is significant mass media. But the idea that it's a crucial early stage link in the…

What you are implicitly proposing is that whenever there is disagreement within the scientific community, that disagreement should be kept behind closed doors and hidden from the public until some Institution (CDC/WHO/etc) decides on a Consensus of Truth, and that this Consensus of Truth is the only narrative that can be communicated to the public.

This raises a lot of questions. For instance, what happens when the Consensus of Truth changes, as we’ve seen with the lab leak hypothesis and the efficacy of wearing masks? The “mass media” goes back and ninja edits their historical news coverage so it fits the new narrative.

As for YouTube being “mass media”, come on—it’s filled with random crap uploaded by members of the public. It’s not the CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite.

Re: “YouTube is shutting down dissenting Biology PhDs and MDs”

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post #65

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I looked the man up, found an interesting tidbit, and posted it. I can see how it comes off as me not liking him, but I really have no idea who he is, so I’ll explain why I posted that quote I saw: If an individual is in question for taking non-standard stances in an academic field, then any history of non-standard stances from said individual in other fields, and responses to them, are relevant IMO. If you disagree…

If all someone can come up with are "standard stances" in their capacity as a scientist, they are a worse-than-useless scientist.

Science is an incremental march. Behind every revolutionary discovery are a thousand necessary results that are the result of a standard process.

Re: “YouTube is shutting down dissenting Biology PhDs and MDs”

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post #77

While ridiculous, Eric Weinstein is a bit over the top with his accusations from time to time. For example Blaming the physics community for not looking in to his personal “unity” theories more.

Sounds like the physics community wrote him off without actually considering his ideas because he didn't fit the charlatan-leftist mold of your typical physicist academic. Per Wikipedia[1]: The paper qualifies that the author "is not a physicist" but an "entertainer", and it has received strong criticism from the scientific community [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Weinstein#

...the paper was also released on April 1st, which further boosts it being a joke.

Re: “YouTube is shutting down dissenting Biology PhDs and MDs”

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post #113

If McDonald's mistreats me, I can go to Wendy's or Burger King and get a similar meal for a similar price. When Youtube mistreats me, where am I supposed to go? BitChute? Vimeo? Neither of those have even half the creators as Youtube. And if creators want to migrate off Youtube, how are they supposed to do that when they'll get less than 10% of the audience on the other sites? Youtube's moat way is too deep to be thr…

YouTube is not a monopoly and you do not have any right to any kind of creators or audience at all. If McDonald's mistreats you, and every other restaurant tastes like garbage to you: tough titty, but that doesn't provide grounds for the govt. to regulate McDonald's.

We decide whether those grounds exist or not.
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