It's hilarious to see libertarians whining about being oppressed by corporations. Like, dude, isn't your whole philosophy that corporations should be allowed to do whatever they want without regard for anybody else? Go start your own YouTube. It's what Galt would have done.
“YouTube is shutting down dissenting Biology PhDs and MDs”
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
> They insist on not using other treatments outside clinical trials. The argument that running experiments would cost lives doesn't seem coherent. Clinical trials are structured experiments which follow a certain protocol, ethical review, etc... > It's not like we have this 100+ yrs practice of dealing with SARS-CoV-2 epidemic with well established protocols We do have 100+ years of practice in dealing with various d…
> Protocols have been developed to ensure that we actually gain knowledge, and not at the expense of the patients. If medicine could be reduced to protocols, we wouldn't need the doctors. You can rest assured right now many MDs are prescribing off-label meds, diagnostics tests, making non-protocol judgement calls etc all around the world. And I am glad they are doing that, because front-line medicine is more engineer…
> You can rest assured right now many MDs are prescribing off-label meds, diagnostics tests, making non-protocol judgement calls etc all around the world. And I am glad they are doing that, because front-line medicine is more engineering than science and their job is ultimately to heal, not being protocol-only automatons.
Well, yeah. One important point about health policy is that it's designed with the knowledge — the assumption — of some level of non-compliance.
Health policy design is game-theoretic, like overbidding in a negotiation: rather than choosing rules that are logically correct, you pick optimal rules to get your own population — a portfolio of people with different feelings toward authority — to on average do the thing you want them to do, or a set of different useful things you want them to do.
When regulating doctors, that means that you take into account that the doctor "on the ground" always has more knowledge than the regulator, and so you can phrase the regulations as absolutes to not do X, Y, or Z, knowing that the doctor will still do X/Y/Z anyway if they have information you don't that leads them to know better in a specific situation.
This is very different from actually making a recommendation to do X/Y/Z in those situations, because such a recommendation can be interpreted out-of-context to imply that doing X/Y/Z might be helpful, and may mislead some doctors into doing X/Y/Z in situations where it wouldn't be helpful — especially in situations where they don't have enough information, but are just falling ever downward on a flowchart of things-to-try.
Basically, when the regulations say "don't do X/Y/Z", what they mean is "if you do do X/Y/Z, we consider you to be taking a heterodox-to-the-medical-establishment position and will discourage others from giving you a platform to promote doing X/Y/Z, lest others not-as-informed as you hear from you and try X/Y/Z themselves without the same justified niche situation. But you can go ahead and keep doing X/Y/Z yourself; we'll turn a blind eye to that. Just do it quietly."
Re: “YouTube is shutting down dissenting Biology PhDs and MDs”
#113If McDonald's mistreats me, I can go to Wendy's or Burger King and get a similar meal for a similar price. When Youtube mistreats me, where am I supposed to go? BitChute? Vimeo? Neither of those have even half the creators as Youtube. And if creators want to migrate off Youtube, how are they supposed to do that when they'll get less than 10% of the audience on the other sites? Youtube's moat way is too deep to be thr…
YouTube is not a monopoly and you do not have any right to any kind of creators or audience at all.
If McDonald's mistreats you, and every other restaurant tastes like garbage to you: tough titty, but that doesn't provide grounds for the govt. to regulate McDonald's.
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#114If McDonald's mistreats me, I can go to Wendy's or Burger King and get a similar meal for a similar price. When Youtube mistreats me, where am I supposed to go? BitChute? Vimeo? Neither of those have even half the creators as Youtube. And if creators want to migrate off Youtube, how are they supposed to do that when they'll get less than 10% of the audience on the other sites? Youtube's moat way is too deep to be thr…
If you used your electricity to kill people by electrocution, what would the authorities do?
So if you suggest weak/indecisive/unknowledgeable people avoid vaccination for measles/smallpox/covid/polio are you sugesting they kill themselves? Should the authorities take action?
A parent whose child dies from one of these diseases might differ. Measles has a 2% death risk, smallpox 30%, covid 0.5%, polio ~~25% paralysis of symptomatic cases.
Back when Columbus came here, measles had a 50% death rate as there was near zero herd immunity, now we have it and death and severe stuff is~2%
Re: “YouTube is shutting down dissenting Biology PhDs and MDs”
#115If McDonald's mistreats me, I can go to Wendy's or Burger King and get a similar meal for a similar price. When Youtube mistreats me, where am I supposed to go? BitChute? Vimeo? Neither of those have even half the creators as Youtube. And if creators want to migrate off Youtube, how are they supposed to do that when they'll get less than 10% of the audience on the other sites? Youtube's moat way is too deep to be thr…
Agreed, but I think at this point the US government is too drunk on power that it'll never give up the control it has on its citizens through Youtube. And people say the US is the land of the "free." What a joke.
Youtube is owned by a private entity that regularly exerts influence on the government, but it is not the government itself. The favoritism afforded to companies like Youtube is due to changing antitrust laws, and the rise of free market fundamentalism in the US, more than anything else.
The notion that the state is is favorable to Youtube because it wants exert some kind of control over people is true; the nature of that control, however, is fundamentally oligarchical, rather than cultural or whatever is being implied here.
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#116What else should scientists do than challenging the status quo? Bret (Eric's brother, biology PhD) had a 2h long conversation with Pierre Kory (MD) and it was taken down by YT. One of the things they talked was the recommendations of WHO and other organisations to focus on supportive care only (supporting the patient while their organism fights the disease by itself). They insist on not using other treatments outside…
> They insist on not using other treatments outside clinical trials. The argument that running experiments would cost lives doesn't seem coherent. Clinical trials are structured experiments which follow a certain protocol, ethical review, etc... > It's not like we have this 100+ yrs practice of dealing with SARS-CoV-2 epidemic with well established protocols We do have 100+ years of practice in dealing with various d…
Ivermectin is not a newly-discovered drug. There were hundereds of millions of courses administered world wide (it even got a Nobel prize). It has been used for decades. [1]
The only unknown right now is the long term effect of ivermectin in patients with covid. It seems to me that it's the same unknown as with the vaccines. You don't have a clinical trial for effects of the vaccines after 5 years, do you? Why don't we wait for it, just to make sure? And it's even worse for the mRNA vaccines, which have not been around for decades and only got the emergency authorization.
Btw the emergency authorization can only be granted by the FDA if there are no alternatives. [2]
> For FDA to issue an EUA, there must be no adequate, approved, and available alternative to the candidate product for diagnosing, preventing, or treating the disease or condition.
I'm not sure if "approved" (as a treatment for covid) would have applied to Ivermectin at the time the EUA was granted but it's not like there were trials to decide that.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivermectin#Cost [2] https://www.fda.gov/regulatory-information/search-fda-guidan...
Re: “YouTube is shutting down dissenting Biology PhDs and MDs”
#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
The same could be said in praise of every crank. Presumably if he's a crank about physics, he could also be one about Covid.
He has a PhD in physics from MIT.... There are many such types who reformulate various types of physics from a mathematical pov -- these attempts rarely have any deep upside... but it is a hobby of mathematical physicists. Nothing "crank" about it.
His PhD is from Harvard.
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#118If McDonald's mistreats me, I can go to Wendy's or Burger King and get a similar meal for a similar price. When Youtube mistreats me, where am I supposed to go? BitChute? Vimeo? Neither of those have even half the creators as Youtube. And if creators want to migrate off Youtube, how are they supposed to do that when they'll get less than 10% of the audience on the other sites? Youtube's moat way is too deep to be thr…
This is silly. You have alternatives, but you still are dismissing them. You could similarly say that if "McDonald mistreats me, where I'm going to go? Wendy? or Burger King? no one is going there" Also your argument with electric company doesn't make sense, in this you could maybe compare it to an ISP, which I agree should be treated as an utility. YouTube is just one of many services available. Your only argument a…
> YouTube is just one of many services available.
With around 75% market share. Yes, competitor Vimeo exists. Without the aid of the Internet, name a second alternative.
Re: “YouTube is shutting down dissenting Biology PhDs and MDs”
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is this slander? That is a completely separate topic, one which wikipedia cannot do justice in a paragraph, and neither can you. Second, the tweet is about Brett's censored video, not Eric. Watch the video.
I looked the man up, found an interesting tidbit, and posted it. I can see how it comes off as me not liking him, but I really have no idea who he is, so I’ll explain why I posted that quote I saw: If an individual is in question for taking non-standard stances in an academic field, then any history of non-standard stances from said individual in other fields, and responses to them, are relevant IMO. If you disagree…
If all someone can come up with are "standard stances" in their capacity as a scientist, they are a worse-than-useless scientist.
Re: “YouTube is shutting down dissenting Biology PhDs and MDs”
#120If McDonald's mistreats me, I can go to Wendy's or Burger King and get a similar meal for a similar price. When Youtube mistreats me, where am I supposed to go? BitChute? Vimeo? Neither of those have even half the creators as Youtube. And if creators want to migrate off Youtube, how are they supposed to do that when they'll get less than 10% of the audience on the other sites? Youtube's moat way is too deep to be thr…
YouTube is not a monopoly and you do not have any right to any kind of creators or audience at all. If McDonald's mistreats you, and every other restaurant tastes like garbage to you: tough titty, but that doesn't provide grounds for the govt. to regulate McDonald's.
The Herfindahl-Hirschman index on Youtube is easily in excess of 5,000 points... and you don't think it counts as a monopoly at all? What a high bar.