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Remote workers work longer, not more efficiently

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Re: Remote workers work longer, not more efficiently

#71
At my company this is for-sure true, broadly across teams.

Management has explicitly taken advantage of this by booking a lot of recurring meetings that start 8/8:15/8:30am in the morning when in the "before times" it was generally a 9am start. Management also feels comfortable sending Slack DMs at 6-7pm as well, knowing people aren't commuting so they can get an answer.

Regardless of setting boundaries, the noise just starts earlier and ends later.

That said it's a tough trade off for me because I do greatly prefer WFH and find I am handling a much higher workload stress only because I am at home.

I've told my manager multiple times over the last year that the level of meetings/work we are taking on is only sustainable because we are at home and everyones social lives evaporated for a year, to which he largely agrees.

What they expect when people return to office shall be interesting. Unless they are ready to accept the 20% reduction in task completion as we revert to in-office norms, I'll be moving on to a new firm after bonus time.

Re: Remote workers work longer, not more efficiently

#73
I find the discussion around "remote work" mostly uninformative. What kind of work? The idea that remote work either is, or is not, productive has a hidden assumption that this is independent of the kind of work. I don't mean just that some kinds of work are impossible to do remotely (at present, anyway); I'm talking about differences among those jobs that can be done remotely.

It's also so clearly dependent on things like the person's situation at home. Are they part of a two-adult, three-kid young family living in a 1,000 sq. ft home during the summer vacation when everyone is at home all day? Or is it a bachelor(ette) living alone? Is it a veteran who has been doing this kind of work for a decade or three, or someone just starting their career? All of these things matter, a lot.

Which would suggest that the best person to be able to predict whether or not working remotely is a good idea, would be that person, and also that the boss should be measuring productivity for that person, and judging accordingly. Some will choose to come in to an office, and others will not, and when layoffs come (and they always come eventually) the person who was working from home had better have been one of the more productive, or they will discover that laying off someone who works remotely is just easier for the boss to do than laying off someone who is in the office every day. That's not nice, but it's the way the real world is, and these studies of productivity of remote work (taken as a large mostly undifferentiated mass) are not very informative about that.

Re: Remote workers work longer, not more efficiently

#74
Both times I've done work at home jobs (one 3 year stint and one 6 year stint), I loved it at first. And both times, as time went on, I found that I worked "half time" all day long, and grew to hate it. Oh the things I tried to combat the decay.

I'm really quite happy with my current situation. I spend most of my time in the office/lab working with peers, but at my choosing, I take my laptop home for a few days and do focused work. This happens when I have a pretty good idea of something I want to do that is primarily one type of work.

Re: Remote workers work longer, not more efficiently

#75
post #19

I believe I work longer. However, I'm also avoiding up to two hours of commute. Before the pandemic, commuting was the most draining part of my day. I'd gladly exchange the commute for extra working hours.

And being able to do usual home stuff (laundry, putting stuff in dishwasher) during the time I would spend at a coffee machine.

Re: Remote workers work longer, not more efficiently

#76
I think I agree in principle, but there are too many confounding factors. My teammates are online more of the day, true. Our productivity is no better, no worse than it was when everyone went to the office. But a major confounding factor is that we don't know how employees structure their time during the day.

Personally, I've found that in a pinch I can get a very 'successful' amount of work done in about an hour a day, if I choose to. The only person driving me to spend more hours per day is me.

Re: Remote workers work longer, not more efficiently

#77

I'm sorry, it hard to trust the Economist. Upper management wants everyone to go back to work. The Economist writes to/for that audience. Most IC's I know, do not want to go back to the office.

I work remotely (before kovid) for 2 years. I work less, learn more and deliver more results with more efficiency.

Re: Remote workers work longer, not more efficiently

#78
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was probably the best environment for remote work. There was nothing else to do but work and eat for many. As people start going to sports games, vacation, concerts, fairs, dinning, bars, clubs, etc. the number of hours they’ll work will go down.

They may work fewer hours, but they won't be miserable and burned out from being stuck at home all week.

This really doesn't compute. I am far more burned out by the stress of commuting and the social energy expended going into the office than from working from my home.

Remote work doesn't mean 'stuck at home.' It means freedom to have control over your own work environment.

Re: Remote workers work longer, not more efficiently

#80

Yes, but I get to work through pointless meetings and avoid chit chat. The efficiency comes from getting more hours in the same 8 hour block to do actual work.

One thing that I have found (and others have mentioned this as well in HN), is the number of meetings has started to creep up simply since it is so much easier to schedule more meetings with more attendees or even all hands (~60 developers in our case) as there are no physical constraints. This can start to erode productivity if taken too far.
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