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Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Post by PascLeRasc »

binbag wrote: post #84
hughrr wrote: post #28

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Actually I don’t think it is. Microsoft promise way ahead of time, fail to deliver, reduce scope, kick out a broken half finished product, get the customers to beta test it, change their mind on the direction of the entire organisation in that space and generally leave everyone confused and a bit burned out. This happens every time and has done for the last 20 years. Even the latest reinvention has just increased the…

The windows hating is so boring and childish. Windows, and particularly Windows 10, is a very good OS. It's not even open source advocates that dislike it so much. I think most Linux users would admit Windows is a solid option, if just not for them. It's usually just Mac fans.

You’re right, I guess as a Mac fan I’m biased. I’m used to having luxury features like local accounts and being allowed to disable updates. It’s not fair to expect that from Windows.

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Post by mopsi »

corndoge wrote: post #7

Wasn't Windows 10 supposed to be the last Windows version ever? As in it was going to be evergreen? Did I imagine that? Edit: Yeah I didn't imagine it https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-ve...

That was not very believable right from the beginning. Product branding, no matter how good, becomes stale over time and refreshes are inevitable.

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Post by AndrewDucker »

taylodl wrote: post #156

Honest question - we have an old .Net web application that still uses Web Forms (I know, I know). Most of the team wants to move to better technology, but there are a few outspoken members who just love Web Forms and they don't want to migrate the site to use anything else. The business doesn't want to invest in an overhaul because of the expense and they point to these vocal team members who love Web Forms. I've bee…

Not sure why you think there would be a link between the two.

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Post by pjerem »

bydo wrote: post #160
ulzeraj wrote: post #27

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Personally I don't think so. Every time I download and install from an Windows ISO it seems worse. Right out of the bat there is a page where you need to uncheck all the spyware crap and there are so many it scrolls. They also make it so a normal local user is presented like a somewhat inferior experience than their web login. Then you have to fill in obligatory 3 recovery questions even if you are confident in your…

There was even one release of Windows 10 Home where you couldn't create a local account, unless you tricked it by not connecting to a network. Not sure if this is still the case with current builds or if they came to their senses. And good luck if you did create one and you also happen to use Office 365, because now you have two Microsoft accounts, possibly with the same email address, that use the same login page, a…

Oh did you say just TWO ?

Nah. I created a Microsoft account with my work mail adress. Then a Windows 10 account with this stupid installer. So I did get two accounts.

But that was before my employer decided to create « corporate » Microsoft accounts for everyone.

That’s 3 accounts. With the same mail address. Now I just avoid to log in with those accounts because I don’t even understand how it even works.

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Post by AndrewDucker »

TurningCanadian wrote: post #77

IE11 support was tied to Windows 10, so now we finally have an official EOL for it. (though I don't see that mentioned in the article)

Already had EOL announced

https://www.infoq.com/news/2021/05/microsoft-IE11-retired-ju...

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Post by taylodl »

AndrewDucker wrote: post #173
taylodl wrote: post #156

Honest question - we have an old .Net web application that still uses Web Forms (I know, I know). Most of the team wants to move to better technology, but there are a few outspoken members who just love Web Forms and they don't want to migrate the site to use anything else. The business doesn't want to invest in an overhaul because of the expense and they point to these vocal team members who love Web Forms. I've bee…

Not sure why you think there would be a link between the two.

Because Web Forms is tied to .Net 4.x and previous and I thought Microsoft said support for .Net 4.x ended with the support of Windows 10.

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Post by moogly »

akiselev wrote: post #126
ulzeraj wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally I don't think so. Every time I download and install from an Windows ISO it seems worse. Right out of the bat there is a page where you need to uncheck all the spyware crap and there are so many it scrolls. They also make it so a normal local user is presented like a somewhat inferior experience than their web login. Then you have to fill in obligatory 3 recovery questions even if you are confident in your…

That stupid weather widget and the Xbox overlay randomly popping up, completely disabling input without an obvious way to get out (some random win key combo), finally drove me to dump Windows as a daily driver. It even drove me to get some real work done on my passion project so I'd never have to use a Windows VM for CAD ever again. I lived through Micro$oft but I was too inexperienced to understand the hate directed…

What Xbox overlay and what weather widget? Running 21H1 and never seen any of those.

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Post by hcs »

moogly wrote: post #177
akiselev wrote: post #126

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That stupid weather widget and the Xbox overlay randomly popping up, completely disabling input without an obvious way to get out (some random win key combo), finally drove me to dump Windows as a daily driver. It even drove me to get some real work done on my passion project so I'd never have to use a Windows VM for CAD ever again. I lived through Micro$oft but I was too inexperienced to understand the hate directed…

What Xbox overlay and what weather widget? Running 21H1 and never seen any of those.

Windows Logo Key + G, the "Xbox Game Bar".

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Post by moogly »

hcs wrote: post #178
moogly wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What Xbox overlay and what weather widget? Running 21H1 and never seen any of those.

Windows Logo Key + G, the "Xbox Game Bar".

Ah, I see. Well. I disabled that the first time I installed Windows 10, back... I don't know how many years ago. It's still disabled.

Also, maybe the fact that I uninstalled all pre-installed apps I knew would never use made it so I skipped out on future weather widgets. I don't have a weather app for instance, because I'll just look out my window instead.

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Post by JackGreyhat »

jiriro wrote: post #166
passivate wrote: post #119

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Our IT has given us deployment sticks for W10 Pro which format/install/deploy the OS using one script in about 5 minutes with zero nags/prompts anything else. It also sets up a default (non-cloud) user. I think its called an 'unattended' setup. So it definitely can be done. I think MS needs to provide a "Yes, I know what I'm doing, go away" Windows ISO.

Could you please elaborate on how that usb stick was made? :-) Time to time I need to do some Windows config/deployment – shortcuts, printers, make the damned NumLock ON, set those PDFs to open NOT in that ducked Edge;) and so on .. But this is not my top skill and after googling for some time I’d kill for a spot on advice.

It can be a quite complex process. It also tends to break easily if not done right. Most organizations that deploy large amounts of systems will create Windows images with tools like Microsoft SCCM for example. This also works: https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/96683-create-media-autom...
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