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Did anyone else get really bad side effects? I felt awful after my first shot and now I an currently recovering from my second shot and feel even worse. I don’t think I have ever felt this bad from an illness.
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After both doses of my vaccine I was given a link and instructions how to report adverse reactions.
By the looks of it, you should keep that handy.
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I've heard less than 1% of adverse reactions are actually reported to VAERS.
Yeah, how many people actually bother to report their symptoms if they’re not serious enough to warrant a trip to the doctor (who might report on their behalf)? Mild myo can go undetected quite easily. In fact, it’s known well as being a cause of death in young athletes who only learn of the condition when their heart gives out during intense physical exertion.
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They are alarming based on the measure of Observed vs. Expected cases. Observed (O) cases in that age group: 283 Expected (E) cases in that age group: 10-102 So at least double the top of the confidence interval, for expected.
Right, but you've got to look at the absolute rate, which in this case is 283 out of 12 million, which is roughly 24 people per million. You can look at the risk of what it's preventing (covid has already killed ~1700 people per million in the US), or compare to other activities and risk levels. Relative risk comparisons between different activities are often not useful. For example, the risk of shark-death at the be…
We’ve known this for a month or so. The bottom line is that experts still recommend getting the vaccine.
meanwhile the many experts who don't recommend it are widely and very vocally shunned as 'science deniers'. Andddd downvoted. Cant even point out that there are actual experts on both sides of the argument without people being upset about it.
This is based on VAERS data. I encourage the curious to look at this data. I did. I would characterize its quality as so poor that probably no conclusions at all can be drawn from it. And I usually find myself defending the use of noisy and/or small data in similar situations.
I've heard less than 1% of adverse reactions are actually reported to VAERS.
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For those getting worried like I was, it’s 0.002% or one in 50,000, not 0.02% or one in 5,000.
I think in general percentages less than 0.1% should be reported as "1-in-XXX". Certainly when I create pages to measure packet loss I put 1 in 50,000 rather than 0.002%
For example: (chance of getting covid) * (chance of specific side effect) = chance of getting covid and experiencing side effect.
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Crude rate seems to be observed cases per million doses administered. So a lot more incidents than expected, but still extremely rare (0.002% of doses). Edit: missed an extra "0" in that percent, thanks for the the catch everyone who did
For those getting worried like I was, it’s 0.002% or one in 50,000, not 0.02% or one in 5,000.
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Yes, but the route in which a vaccination takes place (IM injection into deltoid) should mean that much much less of the spike protein ends up in the heart and lungs vs a natural infection. As well, the overall amount of spike protein in the body will be less. https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/05/04/sp... “Consider what happens when you’re infected by the actual coronavirus. We know now that the hug…
> As well, the overall amount of spike protein in the body will be less. Less that an acute infection, probably. Less than a mild asymptomatic infection? Do we know that? My understanding was that they packed quite a lot of mRNA into the shot in order to ensure a response.
we are observing "asymptomatic" infections followed by cardiovascular problems for some. is it really asymptomatic in those cases?