Heart inflammation cases in young men higher than expected after mRNA vaccines

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 6:58 PM UTC

delecti wrote: post #20

_Microft wrote: post #6

The interesting table with absolute numbers is on page 18 of [0]. Expected and observed cases are cases of myocarditis / pericarditis here. Crude rate is the number of cases per 1 million administered doses. Use landscape mode if you are reading this from a mobile device, the table is narrow enough for that. Age group Doses Crude Expected Observed administ. rate cases cases 12–15 yrs 134,041 22.4 0–1 2 16–17 yrs 2,25…

Crude rate seems to be observed cases per million doses administered. So a lot more incidents than expected, but still extremely rare (0.002% of doses). Edit: missed an extra "0" in that percent, thanks for the the catch everyone who did

Post by pmccarren » Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 6:58 PM UTC

pmccarren wrote: post #26

thatswrong0 wrote: post #3

Anecdote: I had this reaction to the 2nd dose of the Pfizer vaccine, saw a cardiologist and she mentioned that she’s been seeing this quite a bit after the second dose. Have had to lay low for a month, but it seems like the symptoms are finally passing.

Anecdote: I too experienced this reaction, albeit after the first dose. Noticeable but not significant heart pain beginning approximately 4 hours after getting the first vaccine. Speaking with medical professionals, they said symptoms should improve with time, and they have nearly completely across the 1.5 months since. Unsure if worth noting, but I had very strong immune responses to both the first and second doses.

Post by pama » Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 7:00 PM UTC

delecti wrote: post #20

_Microft wrote: post #6

The interesting table with absolute numbers is on page 18 of [0]. Expected and observed cases are cases of myocarditis / pericarditis here. Crude rate is the number of cases per 1 million administered doses. Use landscape mode if you are reading this from a mobile device, the table is narrow enough for that. Age group Doses Crude Expected Observed administ. rate cases cases 12–15 yrs 134,041 22.4 0–1 2 16–17 yrs 2,25…

Crude rate seems to be observed cases per million doses administered. So a lot more incidents than expected, but still extremely rare (0.002% of doses). Edit: missed an extra "0" in that percent, thanks for the the catch everyone who did

Post by sdenton4 » Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 7:01 PM UTC

handrous wrote: post #11

DennisP wrote: post #2

It'd be nice if they mentioned how many cases there were, compared to number of shots.

The whole article could use a lot more context, which has been typical of COVID reporting. For one thing: is heart inflammation a rare side-effect for vaccines and/or immune responses generally? If not, to what degree (if any) does this exceed rates we see for other vaccines? That should be second-paragraph-of-article sorts of information.

Post by Swenrekcah » Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 7:01 PM UTC

delecti wrote: post #20

_Microft wrote: post #6

The interesting table with absolute numbers is on page 18 of [0]. Expected and observed cases are cases of myocarditis / pericarditis here. Crude rate is the number of cases per 1 million administered doses. Use landscape mode if you are reading this from a mobile device, the table is narrow enough for that. Age group Doses Crude Expected Observed administ. rate cases cases 12–15 yrs 134,041 22.4 0–1 2 16–17 yrs 2,25…

Crude rate seems to be observed cases per million doses administered. So a lot more incidents than expected, but still extremely rare (0.002% of doses). Edit: missed an extra "0" in that percent, thanks for the the catch everyone who did