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Re: iOS 15 Humane

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Post by jasonkester »

eloisius wrote: post #254

If I could ask Apple for one thing it would be to require approval of every push notification that an app developer wants to deliver. That an app gets either cart blanche to send me notifications or nothing at all drives me crazy. I don't want to miss a notification that my delivery food arrived, but I don't want to be bombarded with daily advertising messages from foodpanda trying to get me to change my behavior. Re…

Personally, I just want a global setting for "Apps can send notifications" that I can turn off.

Every app that I install, I have to go through the same routine of finding and killing all the various types of notifications it tries to send me. But I don't want apps to notify me of things. Ever. I'll check my email a few times a day, and the various messenger apps once every few weeks, and they will have a list of new messages.

I'm fine with the phone ringing when one of my contacts calls. But that's the full extent of where I'm prepared to allow it to distract me.

Re: iOS 15 Humane

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Post by Ensorceled »

wilde wrote: post #281
eloisius wrote: post #254

If I could ask Apple for one thing it would be to require approval of every push notification that an app developer wants to deliver. That an app gets either cart blanche to send me notifications or nothing at all drives me crazy. I don't want to miss a notification that my delivery food arrived, but I don't want to be bombarded with daily advertising messages from foodpanda trying to get me to change my behavior. Re…

Apple also abuses push notifications to sell their services so I don’t see this ending any time soon :(

I can't remember an Apple push notification that wasn't transactional or an update notification (which is also transcational I guess).

Do you have an example?

Re: iOS 15 Humane

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Post by joenot443 »

jasonkester wrote: post #291
eloisius wrote: post #254

If I could ask Apple for one thing it would be to require approval of every push notification that an app developer wants to deliver. That an app gets either cart blanche to send me notifications or nothing at all drives me crazy. I don't want to miss a notification that my delivery food arrived, but I don't want to be bombarded with daily advertising messages from foodpanda trying to get me to change my behavior. Re…

Personally, I just want a global setting for "Apps can send notifications" that I can turn off. Every app that I install, I have to go through the same routine of finding and killing all the various types of notifications it tries to send me. But I don't want apps to notify me of things. Ever. I'll check my email a few times a day, and the various messenger apps once every few weeks, and they will have a list of new…

On iOS, apps needs to ask permission before they send notifications. If you missed that, there's also a single toggle in Settings -> Notifications for each app. There's no situation where you should have to "kill all the various types of notifications". While I agree a global "Disable Notifications" toggle would be nice, I don't think it's too much work to just tap "Don't Allow" when an app initially prompts you?

The iOS notification ecosystem is actually miles better than it was in the iOS 4-10 days, I think it's fairly user respectful now.

Re: iOS 15 Humane

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Post by FearlessNebula »

latch wrote: post #261
bengale wrote: post #258

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Something really should be done about this. The food delivery apps are worst for this, they seem to know you can't turn alerts off without losing a key feature, but then use it to advertise. They should be made to split this out so you can turn one off without the other. I'd love to customise the alert level for news apps. I would leave on actually important breaking news, but I have to turn it all off because they b…

> The food delivery apps are worst for this My bank, which is otherwise great, does this. Critically important push notifications and a pretty steady stream of meaningless advertisement.

That’s a great way to get people habitually ignoring the important notifications

Re: iOS 15 Humane

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Post by sxg »

jasonkester wrote: post #291
eloisius wrote: post #254

If I could ask Apple for one thing it would be to require approval of every push notification that an app developer wants to deliver. That an app gets either cart blanche to send me notifications or nothing at all drives me crazy. I don't want to miss a notification that my delivery food arrived, but I don't want to be bombarded with daily advertising messages from foodpanda trying to get me to change my behavior. Re…

Personally, I just want a global setting for "Apps can send notifications" that I can turn off. Every app that I install, I have to go through the same routine of finding and killing all the various types of notifications it tries to send me. But I don't want apps to notify me of things. Ever. I'll check my email a few times a day, and the various messenger apps once every few weeks, and they will have a list of new…

Am I misunderstanding? Isn’t this already possible on iOS? You can either disable notifications for individual apps or just turn on Do Not Disturb mode and leave it on. Fairly sure there is a setting to allow phone calls.

Re: iOS 15 Humane

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Post by FearlessNebula »

wilde wrote: post #281
eloisius wrote: post #254

If I could ask Apple for one thing it would be to require approval of every push notification that an app developer wants to deliver. That an app gets either cart blanche to send me notifications or nothing at all drives me crazy. I don't want to miss a notification that my delivery food arrived, but I don't want to be bombarded with daily advertising messages from foodpanda trying to get me to change my behavior. Re…

Apple also abuses push notifications to sell their services so I don’t see this ending any time soon :(

When does Apple ever send push notifications other than software updates?

Re: iOS 15 Humane

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Post by manmal »

joenot443 wrote: post #293
jasonkester wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally, I just want a global setting for "Apps can send notifications" that I can turn off. Every app that I install, I have to go through the same routine of finding and killing all the various types of notifications it tries to send me. But I don't want apps to notify me of things. Ever. I'll check my email a few times a day, and the various messenger apps once every few weeks, and they will have a list of new…

On iOS, apps needs to ask permission before they send notifications. If you missed that, there's also a single toggle in Settings -> Notifications for each app. There's no situation where you should have to "kill all the various types of notifications". While I agree a global "Disable Notifications" toggle would be nice, I don't think it's too much work to just tap "Don't Allow" when an app initially prompts you? The…

There are also trial notifications, which only show up in notification center. Every app can just do that without any permission.

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/usernotifications/...

Re: iOS 15 Humane

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Post by manmal »

FearlessNebula wrote: post #296
wilde wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple also abuses push notifications to sell their services so I don’t see this ending any time soon :(

When does Apple ever send push notifications other than software updates?

For Apple Music: https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/18/18229492/apple-music-push...

Re: iOS 15 Humane

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Post by alickz »

eloisius wrote: post #254

If I could ask Apple for one thing it would be to require approval of every push notification that an app developer wants to deliver. That an app gets either cart blanche to send me notifications or nothing at all drives me crazy. I don't want to miss a notification that my delivery food arrived, but I don't want to be bombarded with daily advertising messages from foodpanda trying to get me to change my behavior. Re…

>I don't want to miss a notification that my delivery food arrived, but I don't want to be bombarded with daily advertising messages from foodpanda trying to get me to change my behavior.

This is exactly what the Android notification channels allow you to do, and it actually works really well.

For UberEats I have the Delivery notification channel enabled, but the Marketing channel disabled. It's really the best of both worlds. And even more surprisingly it seems most apps support this, instead of putting all notifications under one channel.

I'm surprised Apple hasn't followed suit; NIH syndrome maybe?

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