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Drug users use a lot of drugs

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Re: Drug users use a lot of drugs

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"The most important reason meth makes your teeth fall out and ruins your life but Adderall just makes you study a little harder is that the meth users are taking 50x higher doses" The reason meth addicts have bad teeth isn't because of the dosage of the drug. It's because stimulants make you want to eat candy and drink sugar water, because meth addicts lose track of oral hygiene in favor of doing meth or something el…

The reason there's confusion in this thread about dosage is that the author didn't use precise terminology (the author is technically correct, but there's ambiguity). I'm pretty sure he means that the recreational dose is relatively larger compared to the effective dose (ED) with meth than with Adderall.

Re: Drug users use a lot of drugs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My neighbors teeth are falling out. Salesman, honestly pretty successful guy, making 6 figures. Apparently he takes 120mg if Adderall to wake up in the morning. At that dose, he’s basically just getting Walter White quality meth for his morning pick me up.

His teeth are far more likely to be falling out because of bad oral hygiene for a decade earlier in life than they are because of a low dose of Adderal or anything. If 120mg of Adderal made your teeth fall out then tons more people would have their teeth falling out.

To be clear, 120mg is what he takes first thing in the morning. He takes more throughout the day. I’d guess he takes 500+ in a day.

Re: Drug users use a lot of drugs

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This is a great article, and it could be also be expanded to include the 'whale' effect. I'm not just talking about how a small percent of users spend the most on loot-box games, but also how the top 10% of drinkers consume 50% of all the alcohol sold in the USA. I also believe it must apply to people who use cannabis, as a 'dab' setup allows a heavy user to inhale in one breath what would literally be 50 sessions wo…

I mean, not literally 50. Like 3 times the potency, maybe 5 or 6 times the potency of whatever your state average black market, grey market, or illegally grown crop is.

It's important to clear up the FUD here because it has led to some backwards progress for legalization in states like Colorado recently.

Re: Drug users use a lot of drugs

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My neighbors teeth are falling out. Salesman, honestly pretty successful guy, making 6 figures. Apparently he takes 120mg if Adderall to wake up in the morning. At that dose, he’s basically just getting Walter White quality meth for his morning pick me up.

The max approved prescribed dose is 60mg per day, so at that point he's probably doing something illegal.

Oh for sure, the reason I found out about it is that he asked to buy mine, and I declined. I have too much to lose, a wife a kid and a good job, to be slinging Schedule 2 drugs for a couple hundred bucks a month. Plus I actually take my dose as prescribed. He moved away though, thank goodness.

Re: Drug users use a lot of drugs

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It's hard to read Scott once you hear about how he courted the alt-right on purpose and his communities became full of open racists as a result.

Do you have a source for that? Beyond the NYT piece, which is so laughable it does hit pieces a disservice by being grouped with them.

The NYT piece didn't even say that; it said that he supported genocide (??), which is similar, but I don't remember it saying that he courted neo-Nazis. (Or was that one of the heavily-implied things I was oblivious to?)

Re: Drug users use a lot of drugs

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I watched a documentary about ketamine use by party people. It profiled a young guy who had destroyed his bladder and needed to use a pump and hole in his belly to urinate. Really disturbing.

My problem with that, and this article, is that it doesn't say what dosage does that?

It just skips right on to meth, and dosages, and never mentions Ketamine again.

We get that 280mg a month mostly doesn't, and 90,000mg a month can.

But are these "party people" the same as the people doing that higher amount prorated to daily? More specifically, are the "party people" I've been around secretly having bladder problems and getting a hole in their belly and not really ubering home but ubering to the hospital?

Let me know when you, or anyone passing by, find that article

Re: Drug users use a lot of drugs

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This is a great article, and it could be also be expanded to include the 'whale' effect. I'm not just talking about how a small percent of users spend the most on loot-box games, but also how the top 10% of drinkers consume 50% of all the alcohol sold in the USA. I also believe it must apply to people who use cannabis, as a 'dab' setup allows a heavy user to inhale in one breath what would literally be 50 sessions wo…

I mean, not literally 50. Like 3 times the potency, maybe 5 or 6 times the potency of whatever your state average black market, grey market, or illegally grown crop is. It's important to clear up the FUD here because it has led to some backwards progress for legalization in states like Colorado recently.

Let's say you use a 0.5 g dab which has a THC content of 70% (most dabs are either 1-gram or 0.5 g). The wax has 0.35 g (350 mg of THC), but you could lose up to one-third of it when vaporizing. If this happens, you’ll end up with roughly 235 mg of THC per hit (if you can finish the whole dab in one hit).

Someone without a THC tolerance will be completely satisfied with a 5mg dose, total.

Thats 47 doses out of the 236mg the stoner _absorbed_

Re: Drug users use a lot of drugs

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My neighbors teeth are falling out. Salesman, honestly pretty successful guy, making 6 figures. Apparently he takes 120mg if Adderall to wake up in the morning. At that dose, he’s basically just getting Walter White quality meth for his morning pick me up.

His teeth are far more likely to be falling out because of bad oral hygiene for a decade earlier in life than they are because of a low dose of Adderal or anything. If 120mg of Adderal made your teeth fall out then tons more people would have their teeth falling out.

Are there "tons of people" seriously taking 120mg of adderall?
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