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Drug users use a lot of drugs

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Post by reb »

rogerclark wrote: post #2

"The most important reason meth makes your teeth fall out and ruins your life but Adderall just makes you study a little harder is that the meth users are taking 50x higher doses" The reason meth addicts have bad teeth isn't because of the dosage of the drug. It's because stimulants make you want to eat candy and drink sugar water, because meth addicts lose track of oral hygiene in favor of doing meth or something el…

Also: dehydration and dry-mouth secondary to stimulant use, classic accelerators of bacterial overgrowth and consequent tooth decay.

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Post by arijun »

Impassionata wrote: post #12

It's hard to read Scott once you hear about how he courted the alt-right on purpose and his communities became full of open racists as a result.

Do you have a source for that? Beyond the NYT piece, which is so laughable it does hit pieces a disservice by being grouped with them.

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Post by wincy »

zafka wrote: post #3

Thank you. While there is no data to back up some of these numbers, at least they are offered up. I have often wondered what amounts Meth addicts were using do cause their severe issues.

My neighbors teeth are falling out. Salesman, honestly pretty successful guy, making 6 figures. Apparently he takes 120mg if Adderall to wake up in the morning. At that dose, he’s basically just getting Walter White quality meth for his morning pick me up.

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Post by KingMachiavelli »

reb wrote: post #11
rogerclark wrote: post #2

"The most important reason meth makes your teeth fall out and ruins your life but Adderall just makes you study a little harder is that the meth users are taking 50x higher doses" The reason meth addicts have bad teeth isn't because of the dosage of the drug. It's because stimulants make you want to eat candy and drink sugar water, because meth addicts lose track of oral hygiene in favor of doing meth or something el…

Also: dehydration and dry-mouth secondary to stimulant use, classic accelerators of bacterial overgrowth and consequent tooth decay.

Truth. It's highly variable but even Adderall will accelerate tooth decay. It's quite necessary to drink water very frequently.

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Post by celdon25 »

rogerclark wrote: post #2

"The most important reason meth makes your teeth fall out and ruins your life but Adderall just makes you study a little harder is that the meth users are taking 50x higher doses" The reason meth addicts have bad teeth isn't because of the dosage of the drug. It's because stimulants make you want to eat candy and drink sugar water, because meth addicts lose track of oral hygiene in favor of doing meth or something el…

Street meth also has a lot of adulterants, contaminants, or byproducts that can accelerate the damage.

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Post by skummetmaelk »

bawolff wrote: post #9
rogerclark wrote: post #2

"The most important reason meth makes your teeth fall out and ruins your life but Adderall just makes you study a little harder is that the meth users are taking 50x higher doses" The reason meth addicts have bad teeth isn't because of the dosage of the drug. It's because stimulants make you want to eat candy and drink sugar water, because meth addicts lose track of oral hygiene in favor of doing meth or something el…

Adderall is also a stimulant(?) The authors suggestion is it would cause the same effect if taken in the same dosage.

They are both amphetamines.

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Post by droopyEyelids »

This is a great article, and it could be also be expanded to include the 'whale' effect.

I'm not just talking about how a small percent of users spend the most on loot-box games, but also how the top 10% of drinkers consume 50% of all the alcohol sold in the USA.

I also believe it must apply to people who use cannabis, as a 'dab' setup allows a heavy user to inhale in one breath what would literally be 50 sessions worth of doses for an infrequent smoker.

This isn't necessarily the same topic as what the author wrote, but I'd like to see someone explore the connection.

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Post by throwaway0a5e »

wincy wrote: post #14
zafka wrote: post #3

Thank you. While there is no data to back up some of these numbers, at least they are offered up. I have often wondered what amounts Meth addicts were using do cause their severe issues.

My neighbors teeth are falling out. Salesman, honestly pretty successful guy, making 6 figures. Apparently he takes 120mg if Adderall to wake up in the morning. At that dose, he’s basically just getting Walter White quality meth for his morning pick me up.

His teeth are far more likely to be falling out because of bad oral hygiene for a decade earlier in life than they are because of a low dose of Adderal or anything.

If 120mg of Adderal made your teeth fall out then tons more people would have their teeth falling out.

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Post by boomboomsubban »

wincy wrote: post #14
zafka wrote: post #3

Thank you. While there is no data to back up some of these numbers, at least they are offered up. I have often wondered what amounts Meth addicts were using do cause their severe issues.

My neighbors teeth are falling out. Salesman, honestly pretty successful guy, making 6 figures. Apparently he takes 120mg if Adderall to wake up in the morning. At that dose, he’s basically just getting Walter White quality meth for his morning pick me up.

The max approved prescribed dose is 60mg per day, so at that point he's probably doing something illegal.
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