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Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give 30% of creator earning

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Usually for proper push messaging and background processing

Those have been part of the web standards for ages (serviceworkers, web notifications).

Yeah, not supported on iOS.

Re: Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give 30% of creator earning

#82

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Usually for proper push messaging and background processing

Those have been part of the web standards for ages (serviceworkers, web notifications).

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Notificatio...

Re: Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give 30% of creator earning

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OnlyFans wouldn't be allowed in the App Store since it is essentially pornography. I am curious if they would given the chance, but they can't

Reddit allows pornography in the app if you've chosen NSFW setting. How OnlyFans is different?

The risk of a porn story and counter-narratives of non-porn utility. Shipping and trucking has a risk of a trafficking story, but it has much weightier counter-narratives of salient utility.

Re: Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give 30% of creator earning

#84

Seems pretty disingenuous given they had to have known this would happen (note that OnlyFans has no app)

Yeah, it's not like they put together this entire business and then afterwards realized they'd have to pony up money to Apple. If they didn't know up front, that's not great business planning.

Re: Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give 30% of creator earning

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OnlyFans wouldn't be allowed in the App Store since it is essentially pornography. I am curious if they would given the chance, but they can't

Reddit allows pornography in the app if you've chosen NSFW setting. How OnlyFans is different?

Primary purpose. You can build a web browser that can load porn, but that’s not the raison d’etre of a web browser. Similarly Reddit is far more not porn than porn.

Re: Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give 30% of creator earning

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They draw a line between digital and physical purchases.

They don't force Netflix to pay them 30% either. The reality is they take 30% where they can overpower the other party. Where they are overpowered, they acquiesce.

They also drew a line between in app and non in app transactions.

Re: Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give 30% of creator earning

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Just curious, if Apple is so bad, why do people build apps for it? Browsers are very robust now a days. I have never built a iPhone or Android app, never needed to. Browsers now a days I imagine can get you atleast 90% of the way. Why go to Apple if you can build a webapp. And it is cross platform so you do not have to maintain a separate Android app. What am I missing?

My app does end-to-end encryption, and this is much more straightforward in a "real" app. (1) I need non-volatile storage for the keys, and (2) I want users to know if/when they get a new version of the code.

You can do E2EE in a web app (like Element.io), but then every time you load the page, you're trusting the server not to send you a new version with a backdoor.

Re: Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give 30% of creator earning

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I'll give you the counterpoint. I'm very happy to spend money on apps and services that I like. However, I'm only going to do it through Apple's platform, for a variety of reasons. If you don't want to build on Apple's platform, that's completely fine. I won't be a customer. And maybe that will change the system, I really don't know.

The issue is that this customer you're describing doesn't exist. It does provide a marginally higher amount of friction to use a non-native payment method, but there aren't any users out there cancelling their Netflix subscription because now Netflix gets 100% of the proceeds instead of 70%. At that point, you're inadvertently sabotaging the very company that you're trying to support, because your hardware manufactur…

How can you honestly tell a person who just shared their opinion "you don't exist"? I also would never enter my credit card in an app, UNLESS it's a huge, well-trusted brand (which this influencer app isn't).

Many people wouldn't bother. The whole point of Apple handling this is that you trust Apple to have more clue than your average startup full of monkeys.

Re: Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give 30% of creator earning

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They draw a line between digital and physical purchases.

They don't force Netflix to pay them 30% either. The reality is they take 30% where they can overpower the other party. Where they are overpowered, they acquiesce.

I believe the majority of a Netflix subscriber's consumption is still on their TV, not on their iPhone/iPad.

But you also cannot pay for Netflix in the iPhone app. You have to do it on their website.

Re: Apple is threatening to remove Fanhouse unless they give 30% of creator earning

#90

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Usually for proper push messaging and background processing

Those have been part of the web standards for ages (serviceworkers, web notifications).

not on mobile safari
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