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Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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post #4

Off-topic, but: does anyone know how Vivaldi is funded? I tried looking for it for a bit, but couldn't find any income streams.

By merchadising their produc... er... users! :)

That being said, according to their blog, browser users aren't tracked or profiled by Vivaldi.

They claim to make money from search engine partner deals and from bookmark partner deals. And to be honest, I have no reason to think that the statement isn't true.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

#42

website is down. how much spyware is in their browser? is it fully open sourced?

I'm not aware of any spyware in the browser. I believe the source is online but not licensed under a free license (Someone is free to correct me on that).

The browser engine, being a Chromium variant, is open-sourced. The source code for the UI is not available under an open source license it seems: https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/privacy/is-vivaldi-open-sou...

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

#43
post #3

Vivaldi Mail? That took a while :-D Vivaldi is developed by a team created by the former Opera founder and CEO. Vivaldi kind of tries to re-create the spirit of Opera, but I think it's going to be too hard to do it. For those who didn't use it, Opera was first a paid browser (which limited its reach), then an ad-supported browser (which again limited its reach). It then finally became a free browser but by then it wa…

Loved Opera back in the day. It had "page specific settings" that would let me allow to set HTTP/Socks5 proxies on a per-page setting - today you cannot even set a proxy anymore without changing your system settings (not browser settings). If anyone asks, I used this heavily to bypass country blocks/redirects on a per-page level and also with privoxy on some privacy invading sites.

> today you cannot even set a proxy anymore without changing your system settings (not browser settings).

you can in firefox settings

you can also do it in chrome with the cli parameter --proxy-server

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

#44
post #30

I'm trying Vivaldi again since as an expat I depend on single-click in-browser translation. For me, the killer feature is built-in no-nonsense vertical tabs, something I had in Galeon many years ago because it used the Gtk+ tab widget. I hate hate hate that Chromium cannot do this, because dogma.

FWIW, Microsoft Edge also has vertical tabs.

Neat! I'm not the grandparent poster, but I also can't stand horizontal tabs, probably because I'm a tab hoarder. But with screens wider than they are tall, vertical tabs make sense, and each new tab doesn't truncate all other tabs' titles.

I looked up MS Edge's implementation, it seems it only shows the tabs either on top or on the left of the window, with Vivaldi you can set it at any edge of the window, I have mine on the right side.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

#45

I'm trying Vivaldi again since as an expat I depend on single-click in-browser translation. For me, the killer feature is built-in no-nonsense vertical tabs, something I had in Galeon many years ago because it used the Gtk+ tab widget. I hate hate hate that Chromium cannot do this, because dogma.

Vertical tabs without the 'tree' aspect (at least when I last used Vivaldi). Firefox with Tree Style Tab extension is still the best option I've found so far.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

#46
post #3

Vivaldi Mail? That took a while :-D Vivaldi is developed by a team created by the former Opera founder and CEO. Vivaldi kind of tries to re-create the spirit of Opera, but I think it's going to be too hard to do it. For those who didn't use it, Opera was first a paid browser (which limited its reach), then an ad-supported browser (which again limited its reach). It then finally became a free browser but by then it wa…

Not to forget Opera Mini which did server-side rendering for mobiles. Results were WAP-like quality and mostly sucked (by nature of device's capabilities back then).

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

#47
I want to offer Vivaldi some praise, I switched to it as my main browser a few years ago, and it's been great. I had to look for a new browser when Firefox (that I had used since the Firebird days) kept breaking my settings and plugins with their updates. After yet another Firefox update I wasn't able to restore the browser to how I want it to be, so I tried Vivaldi.

I'm not even a big fan of the original Opera, but love Vivaldi's features such as easy screen splitting between two tabs and one-click actions to disable images or apply certain filters to a page. Picture-in-picture and pop-outs for media are also great, periodic tab reload is occasionally very useful.

Ideally I'd like to use a fully FOSS browser, but my patience with Firefox ran out, and Vivaldi is Chromium + custom open-source parts + closed-source UI layer. Good enough for me, though not ideal.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe Opera was the first browsers to introduce tabs.

I'm pretty sure Galeon had tabs before Opera, but maybe something had tabs before Galeon.

I loved tabs in Galeon, it's the only browser I remembering having it at the time, but I probably didn't try Opera. I was sad when Galeon went away (or removed tabs? I don't recall) and I couldn't find another browser with tab support for a while. Again, I may have overlooked Opera :)

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

#49
post #16

I really tried to like Vivaldi, and it could be a good browser, but is so unbearably slow. The whole UI is unresponsive. Opening a new tab can take almost a second. Price for javascript apps I guess. edit for clarification: This was on OSX, on Windows it was OK. Used it for almost a year as a secondary browser, no change, gave up.

Is it based on electron. - drum roll - :)

That just means it's based on chromium, which makes sense for a browser.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

#50
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW, Microsoft Edge also has vertical tabs.

Neat! I'm not the grandparent poster, but I also can't stand horizontal tabs, probably because I'm a tab hoarder. But with screens wider than they are tall, vertical tabs make sense, and each new tab doesn't truncate all other tabs' titles. I looked up MS Edge's implementation, it seems it only shows the tabs either on top or on the left of the window, with Vivaldi you can set it at any edge of the window, I have min…

Indeed, for least distraction, content should start at the top left of the screen. For this, I already had my tabs on the right, but now I am trying bookmarks/address bar at the bottom.

Not sure I'll keep it this way ... but what I ♥ about Vivaldi is the choice. If I wanted training wheels, I would already be using macOS.

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