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Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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You want half assed? Not Apple's fault. See other replies in this thread that it was killed by a patent troll.

A very lame excuse.

Apple is already on the hook for about a billion dollars to VirnetX. That's not a lame excuse at all.

Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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Wow. That is unexpected. I have to say that FaceTime in a browser sandbox is one of the few Apple products I would consider using. I wonder what made them take this path? I also wonder if someone could build a Matrix bridge if it is available via web, that would be fairly cool. Some questions: - Is it phone-number based IDs? Or can I pick a username or get a random ID? - Is spam going to be a problem? Previous Apple…

This is a honest question, so, what is so good about FaceTime? I have not used an iPhone since version 3GS, so it has been a while, but I understand it is just something similar to whatsapp video calls, google meet, or even zoom?

Not to be cliche but...it just works. Especially for the older generation who are used to calling people, the UX is seamless.

No links to send (Zoom), no ever-changing products and menus (Google anything), and as few taps as possible/low friction to turn on (Whatsapp is comparable).

The audio and video quality is also pretty damn good.

Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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The colours are definitely there to indicate who doesn’t have an iDevice. They predate iMessage being end-to-end encrypted, and predates Apples current privacy push. Additionally Apple senior leaders have got up on stage and joked about how people with green bubbles are second class friends. All of that together makes me think the bubble colours are primarily there to gently nudge people into getting their friends an…

> They predate iMessage being end-to-end encrypted There was a time when iMessage was not end-to-end encrypted? I thought it launched like that on day 1.

I believe iMessage got E2E encryption fairly quickly after it's release (late 2013 if memory serves), but the "green bubble" did exist in that twilight-zone between both periods.

Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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A lot of Apple's previous attempts at "web apps" have been pretty half-arsed. Including Apple Music currently. Let's see if this is any different. I'm currently using Signal on Windows/Android/iOS and apart from two annoyances it is fine. - No gif support on Windows (Android/iOS only) - Cannot add a second phone but can add a tablet. As soon as it detects a SIM card slot (with or without SIM in it) it only allows you…

>- Cannot add a second phone but can add a tablet. As soon as it detects a SIM card slot (with or without SIM in it) it only allows you to set it up as the primary device, rather than a secondary like a tablet. This is so infuriating. I can have Signal with the same account on my phone, my macbook pro, and my windows desktop, but not my iPad Pro. It doesn't even have a SIM card in it. Just an empty slot.

Weird... I've had two generations of iPads with cellular, and Signal has worked for me, in linked mode, on both devices (both with and without a SIM present).

Maybe this is a bug that only affects certain models or something?

Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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In my family, it was the best video calling option back in 2010-2012 or so, and there was no competition. So all the older people only know how to use Facetime, and no one is going to go through the trouble of teaching them anything else. I also have been embarrassed trying to teach Google's solutions and then Google messing with them over and over, so I won't ever try to introduce a Google service again.

Seriously why are Google video calls SO confusing and why do they change every year?

Google Meet is a pretty solid solution and I have never had a problem with it, been using it for years.

Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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I see from the responses that one thing that is omitted is the clearly higher audio/video quality. I had someone call me on facebook messenger, but had to ask them to call me on facetime purely because of quality, and its not the first time. As with all Apple products "it just works". I wonder if that may change when it goes to the web.

Duo and WhatsApp have significantly better video quality (especially off of Wi-Fi) than FaceTime

I've found WA to be more stable on the audio front, and video is great as well. But I have an ancient 6s so I'm not quite putting out the highest quality video.

Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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Wow. That is unexpected. I have to say that FaceTime in a browser sandbox is one of the few Apple products I would consider using. I wonder what made them take this path? I also wonder if someone could build a Matrix bridge if it is available via web, that would be fairly cool. Some questions: - Is it phone-number based IDs? Or can I pick a username or get a random ID? - Is spam going to be a problem? Previous Apple…

This is a honest question, so, what is so good about FaceTime? I have not used an iPhone since version 3GS, so it has been a while, but I understand it is just something similar to whatsapp video calls, google meet, or even zoom?

Atleast for me, the experience with Facetime has been less than optimal. For some reason the call option to some of my contacts is always disabled even though they can call me.

The left hand side of the window in Mac always displays recently called. No idea how to access contacts in the Mac app.

The video quality is all right.

Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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Google video engineers gotta justify that promo to Senior Staff

I honestly 100% feel like this is the main justification for all changes happening with Google products. I swear to god Google Photos changes the entire layout every year for no reason whatsoever. Whatever they change it to isn't better, just different. But the entire website has to be remodelled and your users have to learn the entire website again because.....someone on the UI team has to justify their 6 digit sala…

The transition from Google Play Music to YouTube Music has been insane. They rebuilt apps seemingly from the ground up, only without a bunch of features. Meanwhile the actual product has, at best, stood still for about two years now. Meanwhile Spotify are running rings around them.

Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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Heck, domestic SMS costs money for lots of people!

That would be amazing to me in the US, I assumed everyone had unlimited SMS/MMS/within the US phone calls. I have not shopped for mobile plans in over a decade though.

It's probable that a large majority have domestic SMS for free/included-in-plan but most probably still have to pay for international SMS.

Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web

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Wow. That is unexpected. I have to say that FaceTime in a browser sandbox is one of the few Apple products I would consider using. I wonder what made them take this path? I also wonder if someone could build a Matrix bridge if it is available via web, that would be fairly cool. Some questions: - Is it phone-number based IDs? Or can I pick a username or get a random ID? - Is spam going to be a problem? Previous Apple…

This is a honest question, so, what is so good about FaceTime? I have not used an iPhone since version 3GS, so it has been a while, but I understand it is just something similar to whatsapp video calls, google meet, or even zoom?

Nothing.

Works worse than WhatsApp and Google Meet. Way worse than Duo.

Functionality wise worse than Zoom but UI is maybe better than Zoom. But wait, FaceTime has essentially no UI.

Works a lot better than Signal. But Signal’s audio video and their UI around it sucks, so that’s nothing FaceTime ought to be proud of.

It’s just Apple doing Apple things and fans going bonkers over it.

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