Maybe this means Apple will bring iMessage to Android in a year or two just to mess with Facebook Messenger.
FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web
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#12But iMessages isn't, ensuring its continued irrelevance in countries that are not the United States of America.
If iMessage is supported on Android, that means that Apple users can to communicate with ex-Apple users without messages getting randomly black-holed. How else is Apple supposed to punish those who leave their ecosystem?
Apple currently sees this as a competitive advantage but it's only a matter of time before these anti-consumer practices like locking down iMessage, high app store fees, not supporting right to repair, and planned obsolescence come to bite them in the back.
Allowing everyone to use Facetime is just the first sign of this. Probably because they realized that very few people were using Facetime if they couldn't chat with non-Apple friends.
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#13I always use WhatsApp or Instagram for non-work video chatting. FaceTime is completely irrelevant unless you just happen to have your entire social circle using one company's hardware with no exceptions.
Right, so, that's why they announced the OP, to try to change that, right?
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#14I always use WhatsApp or Instagram for non-work video chatting. FaceTime is completely irrelevant unless you just happen to have your entire social circle using one company's hardware with no exceptions.
…and this changes that (to an extent) by allowing iOS/Mac users to have FaceTime calls with people in different ecosystems.
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#15As is, or will it be made good? The UX of the current version is poor on iPad / OSX. That was fine in the past - Skype was the only competition and that was horrible - but with Jitsi, Zoom and Discord killing it they've fallen miles behind.
iOS 15 will have a lot of new Zoom-similar features. (e.g. Grid View and Backgrounds)
Re: FaceTime is coming to Android and Windows via the web
#16Maybe this means Apple will bring iMessage to Android in a year or two just to mess with Facebook Messenger.
Apple could have brought iMessage to android at any time. They explicitly choose not to because of the social pressure to buy an iPhone this places on youth. This was pretty explicitly laid out in the Epic v Apple case.
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#17Its only 1 way which means an Apple user can send a link to a non ios user to join in. I as an Android user cant do that. Cross platform like whatsapp, duo or signal still win here
WhatsApp: Owned by a company that makes money invading your privacy.
Duo: owned by a company that makes money invading your privacy.
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#18Wow. That is unexpected. I have to say that FaceTime in a browser sandbox is one of the few Apple products I would consider using. I wonder what made them take this path?
I also wonder if someone could build a Matrix bridge if it is available via web, that would be fairly cool.
Some questions:
- Is it phone-number based IDs? Or can I pick a username or get a random ID?
- Is spam going to be a problem? Previous Apple had the advantage that you had to buy a multi-hundred dollar advice to call someone. Will they need to implement new spam measures (or will you simply have to add a contact first)?
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#19As is, or will it be made good? The UX of the current version is poor on iPad / OSX. That was fine in the past - Skype was the only competition and that was horrible - but with Jitsi, Zoom and Discord killing it they've fallen miles behind.
iOS 15 will have a lot of new Zoom-similar features. (e.g. Grid View and Backgrounds)
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#20Its only 1 way which means an Apple user can send a link to a non ios user to join in. I as an Android user cant do that. Cross platform like whatsapp, duo or signal still win here
To be clear are you saying that a web user has no way to initiate a call? They can only join via one-time link to a call started by a user on Apple hardware?