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Re: ST3000DM001

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Post by avh02 »

dragontamer wrote: post #226
skykooler wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does the location of the sticker matter?

When you have 60 hard drives in a server, and server says "Hard Drive SerialNumber #51233142 has failed", you need a quick-and-easy way to find that hard drive. https://www.backblaze.com/b2/storage-pod.html A sticker with the Serial Number on the correct location will help you find which of those 60-hard drives are broken. Toshiba didn't have their stickers in a location that worked for Backblaze.

Sounds like something you can solve with a labelmaker unless it's over the "do not cover" portions.

Re: ST3000DM001

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Post by simondotau »

betwixthewires wrote: post #89
simondotau wrote: post #57

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The plausibility of a conspiracy theory diminishes as the number of people necessary to keep the secret increases. How many people work in Thailand's hard drive manufacturing plants? Hundreds? Thousands? How many people in the logistics channels? How many people are vending food to these employees? How many people in the US Government? Oh, and pulling this off would also require co-ordination with Thai Government. Th…

> The plausibility of a conspiracy theory diminishes as the number of people necessary to keep the secret increases. While I don't know anything about the theory being discussed here, the pervasive belief in Santa Clause among children disproves your point entirely.

> the pervasive belief in Santa Clause among children disproves your point

No, it proves it.

Default hypothesis: Santa is real.

For Santa to be a conspiracy: my parents and all my friends’ parents must be lying to their children.

Therefore: Santa is believed.

Re: ST3000DM001

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Post by dragontamer »

avh02 wrote: post #241
dragontamer wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you have 60 hard drives in a server, and server says "Hard Drive SerialNumber #51233142 has failed", you need a quick-and-easy way to find that hard drive. https://www.backblaze.com/b2/storage-pod.html A sticker with the Serial Number on the correct location will help you find which of those 60-hard drives are broken. Toshiba didn't have their stickers in a location that worked for Backblaze.

Sounds like something you can solve with a labelmaker unless it's over the "do not cover" portions.

On the one hand, you can make 600-labels per rack.

On the other hand, you could just buy WD hard drives at virtually the same price and not have to worry about those labels at all since the sticker is in the correct spot.

Its not that its an unsolvable problem. Its that the solution is not worth the price difference between the drives.

Re: ST3000DM001

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Post by zzarzzur »

VonGuard wrote: post #198
squeed wrote: post #141

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Hah, I remember a pallet or the now-empty IA enclosures showing up at Noisebridge. They were super useful - a USB3-SATA adapter. I still have mine for occasional data spelunking.

OMG, ditto! I grabbed 2 of those enclosures for home use without HDs in them. Didn't realize they had come from Archive.org.

Mind. Blown. I've got a couple of them too, never really thought about how they came to be.

Re: ST3000DM001

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Post by segfaultbuserr »

londons_explore wrote: post #118
tester34 wrote: post #105

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haha, it's even better if you replace in your comment hard drives with CPUs

But people do mod CPU's... By overclocking, by hacking into SMM mode, by liquid nitrogen cooling... People also make their own toy CPU's for fun with quite some regularity - using FPGA's and other tools, the same as the pros. And people decap and reverse engineer new CPU's like Apples M1.

And people do hack hard drives as well:

* install Linux to your hard drive firmware

https://spritesmods.com/?art=hddhack

The difference is, these hacks we've mentioned are software and solid-state electronics hack. On the other hand, doing a hard drive failure analysis in the mechanical realm is totally a different challenge, a hard drive is hard.

Re: ST3000DM001

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Post by Lammy »

gruez wrote: post #170
anticodon wrote: post #106

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But where would a person speak to disclose the secret? Internet is very effectively censored by the US monopolies now. If something is not indexed by Google, it's effectively non-existent. FAANG censorship is fast and effective. E.g. there were many important US bureaucrats involved in the Theranos scandal (even current US president). When I try to find anything related to that matter now, Google returns pages with m…

> But where would a person speak to disclose the secret? Internet is very effectively censored by the US monopolies now. So why didn't they bother censoring this comment?

SNR is the censorship mechanism for the English web, not GFW-style.

Re: ST3000DM001

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Post by segfaultbuserr »

einpoklum wrote: post #150
qualudeheart wrote: post #132

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I think it’s cute

Perhaps that's because you know the model number? When people browse the list of titles on the front mpage, they should know what the story is about. So, in this case, something like: "ST3000DM001 - A disk model number that would live in infamy" or: "Seagate's infamous ST3000DM001" etc.

Unfortunately, the HN rules say you can't do this. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> Please don't do things to make titles stand out, like using uppercase or exclamation points, or saying how great an article is. [...] please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize.

Most of the time, this rule does more good than harm to prevent clickbaits, but it's not perfect and occasionally causes problem if the original title is not descriptive. In fact, there are multiple incidents that edited titles were reverted back by the mods, much to the complaints of the readers, I guess it's a small price to pay. Sometimes you can be sneaky so it won't be noticed, saying "Seagate's infamous ST3000DM001" is unacceptable, but the mods don't care if you say "Seagate ST3000DM001".

Re: ST3000DM001

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Post by gruez »

Lammy wrote: post #246
gruez wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But where would a person speak to disclose the secret? Internet is very effectively censored by the US monopolies now. So why didn't they bother censoring this comment?

SNR is the censorship mechanism for the English web, not GFW-style.

Sounds nebulous and hard to falsify.

Re: ST3000DM001

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Post by ta988 »

starfallg wrote: post #195
ta988 wrote: post #158

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Not keeping track of serial numbers?

Refurbished drives get their firmware and NVRAM overwritten. The subsequent units have different serial numbers and the labels get replaced.

Wow this is full dishonest if they are not marked as refurbished.

Re: ST3000DM001

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Post by starfallg »

ta988 wrote: post #249
starfallg wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Refurbished drives get their firmware and NVRAM overwritten. The subsequent units have different serial numbers and the labels get replaced.

Wow this is full dishonest if they are not marked as refurbished.

No, they do get marked as refurbished. That's why the serial numbers are different.
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