I remember seeing a compiled list of hard drive failure rates for different models, I think it was backblaze. It was awesome
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#82The drive that taught people the importance of backups...
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
> coordinate an intricate conspiracy Nobody is alleging that but you. Personally I don't think either "surveillance system needs a way to store what is collected" or "high-volume customers have economic leverage to demand confidentiality" are particularly intricate concepts.
The Snowden effect has worn off, it seems. Nowadays the NSA is back to being able to pull the most extreme stunts and everyone who thinks it is even remotely possible is called a crazy conspiracy theorist.
To claim that the NSA caused or faked the Thailand flooding is conspiracy theorist bullshit of the highest order.
To claim that the NSA took advantage of an existing event to help their already-planned ordering fly under the radar more easily is perfectly plausible. And, honestly, pretty boring.
Which one are you alleging? Choosing your words carefully might be wise.
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or they managed to fill it with hardware without having to coordinate an intricate conspiracy involving supply chain and manufacturers across the globe.
> coordinate an intricate conspiracy Nobody is alleging that but you. Personally I don't think either "surveillance system needs a way to store what is collected" or "high-volume customers have economic leverage to demand confidentiality" are particularly intricate concepts.
Colordrops said, "The Thailand story was a cover." This is the allegation. Not that the NSA bought a lot of drives and kept it secret, but that this purchase alone rather than the floods were responsible for the drive storage, and the flood story was fabricated. That is the alleged conspiracy.
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Thailand story was a cover for the NSA buying a huge number of drives for the new data facility in Utah.
The plausibility of a conspiracy theory diminishes as the number of people necessary to keep the secret increases. How many people work in Thailand's hard drive manufacturing plants? Hundreds? Thousands? How many people in the logistics channels? How many people are vending food to these employees? How many people in the US Government? Oh, and pulling this off would also require co-ordination with Thai Government. Th…
> The plausibility of a conspiracy theory diminishes as the number of people necessary to keep the secret increases.
Not if you can discredit those who dare to speak out by labeling them "conspiracy theorists," thereby discouraging others from coming out as well.
I remember an episode from an old American sitcom where people make fun of the dad (an airline pilot) when he claims to have seen a UFO. It is the same thing. Any deviation from the standard narrative isn't tolerated by most people.
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#86So why did this drive fail? Has nobody dissected it to figure out exactly which component no longer functioned correctly?
Every time a submission like this pops up I expect someone who worked at Seagate during that era to pipe up and explain what went wrong and why ... but I haven't seen it yet. Surprising.
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#88Ha, it's one of the few HDDs that have their own Wikipedia pages [0], and even more so, it's one of the only two Seagate drives [1] - the other was the ST506/ST412, Seagate's first product! It just shows how infamous this 3 TB Seagate drive really is. Other HDDs on Wikipedia include: IBM Deskstar (equally infamous), and other historical milestones like the DEC RK05 (classic HDD for PDP-8 and PDP-11). I just hope the…
I had a 75GB "Deathstar" at the time and was really worried that it would fail. I was a teenager and couldn't really afford replacing it, nor have good backup solutions.
I accidentally pulled a power pin while removing the molex connector and had to solder on a modified power extension cable.
The drive kept on living for many years and IIRC it never failed while in active use.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Thailand story was a cover for the NSA buying a huge number of drives for the new data facility in Utah.
The plausibility of a conspiracy theory diminishes as the number of people necessary to keep the secret increases. How many people work in Thailand's hard drive manufacturing plants? Hundreds? Thousands? How many people in the logistics channels? How many people are vending food to these employees? How many people in the US Government? Oh, and pulling this off would also require co-ordination with Thai Government. Th…
> The plausibility of a conspiracy theory diminishes as the number of people necessary to keep the secret increases.
While I don't know anything about the theory being discussed here, the pervasive belief in Santa Clause among children disproves your point entirely.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Correct. To the other comments. We where a good customer that experienced an amazing stupidly high failure rate in a part that others also reported the same issue. The cost of deploying these systems and having them fail randomly broke planning and wasted the teams time and impacted our IT cost metrics. The cost of the support ticket, time and replacing and re-imaging a system was not free. We of course tried very ha…
I mean at first it sounded like fraud, but then you explained it, and then it really sounded like fraud.
Nah, it's fair.
We've had to fry our failed HDDs because otherwise the vendor would replace them with those we've returned previously. Then they would not endure RAID rebuild and the cycle would repeat.