Ah, the good old narrative about private "drones" posing all kinds of treats to planes, birds, children, privacy of stolen wealth and govporate monopoly on spying and data hoarding!
3,000 eggs abandoned after drone scares birds in California
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#242I am guessing that drones are to birds what a Martian invasion would be to us - suddenly a new species has arrived and is persistent - it can go everywhere birds can go, it has spare energy enough to make aggressive noises constantly and it completely ignores any aggressive actions and attacks made to drive the drone off. It has arrived and taken over the territory completely - so abandon the area. My problem is if m…
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#243I guess if a bunch of human believe a 'drone crash' can scare off a huge sanctuary of birds, it's possible a bunch of birds might believe a drone crash is a something something. Originally it was 1,500 eggs, then 2,000 then 3,000. The photo looks under 1000 - https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/heraldextra.com... 800 eggs abandoned is still a story, but if they told the truth of what they know, perhaps the r…
Your downvoters either can't tell a synthetic story from real or are actively working on supporting the ordered narrative.
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#244Earlier quoted context omitted.
It was more than just "a single predator sighting." The article says it was two drones and one of them crashed, which is a lot more dramatic. They didn't say how close the crash was to the nesting birds. And they didn't say how long the drones were flying around and how they were flying around before the birds decided to abandon. We don't know, perhaps they were buzzing the terns at a low altitude, or hovering for a…
Admittedly the drone crashing is more than a sighting, but it still stands that that is less than what a real predator would do. I just cant imagine these birds surviving while they abandon all that en mass every time a falcon attacks them. Seems like there has to be more to this story
Sounds to me like they were chasing away the birds for giggles and then a drone crashed.
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#245I'm baffled how people on HN, ostensibly programmers and other left-hemispherists alike, still believe mainstream media.
The conclusion is as follows: there are no genuine commenters left here. Only the agenda implanters, their censoring Sancho Panzas and mindless parrots of their narratives.
But I am satisfied to know that truth hurts and downvoters are still stung with it, however high a horse be dragging them.
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#246Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a side note: Do not ever go into between two dogs fighting, even if both dogs know you and are normally super team. It's not just a risk for you but can also make the dogs involved more aggressive. Furthermore most dogs (which do not have mental issues or are badly wrongly trained) normally won't kill or majorly injure the other dog but mainly make it submit. But if you step in thinks can still escalate. Lastly th…
when it comes to dogs there are a lot of misinformation and contradictory unverified advises floating around >normally won't kill or majorly injure the other dog but mainly make it submit some are doing it by biting and sinking their teeth deep into the back of the neck of the victim. So it does make sense to step in before that happens, as well as to step in to stop that when that is already going on (i've met owner…
Please consult a professional dog trainer.
(Which I am not!)
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>that happen to their dogs
It's a pretty normal part of dogs inter-social behaviour, as you should now the back of the neck of dogs is used by parent dogs to discipline (and sometimes carry) their pubs. In turn it's also used to make dogs submit in social fights between them. Which is a normal/natural part of there social interaction.
And yes there are aggressive and dangers dogs, too.
Still if you step in you are likely increasing the aggression the other dog has against your dog. Which if it repeatedly happens with the same dogs could make the situation problematic if you at some point are not fast enough to step in.
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#247I am guessing that drones are to birds what a Martian invasion would be to us - suddenly a new species has arrived and is persistent - it can go everywhere birds can go, it has spare energy enough to make aggressive noises constantly and it completely ignores any aggressive actions and attacks made to drive the drone off. It has arrived and taken over the territory completely - so abandon the area. My problem is if m…
Domesticated cats have completely eradicated several United States bird species nobody called for eradication of cats
> nobody called for eradication of cats
While "eradication" evokes killing and hostility, many small island communities all over the world which cohabitate with rare and vulnerable bird species do ban or severely restrict the ownership of cats.
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#248Earlier quoted context omitted.
when it comes to dogs there are a lot of misinformation and contradictory unverified advises floating around >normally won't kill or majorly injure the other dog but mainly make it submit some are doing it by biting and sinking their teeth deep into the back of the neck of the victim. So it does make sense to step in before that happens, as well as to step in to stop that when that is already going on (i've met owner…
Please consult a professional dog trainer. (Which I am not!) --- >that happen to their dogs It's a pretty normal part of dogs inter-social behaviour, as you should now the back of the neck of dogs is used by parent dogs to discipline (and sometimes carry) their pubs. In turn it's also used to make dogs submit in social fights between them. Which is a normal/natural part of there social interaction. And yes there are…
> Which is a normal/natural part of there social interaction.
i understand that you describe a consistent and logical model. Unfortunately it has nothing in common with the reality i know. In one case it was a large labrador - a lot of muscle on hit back neck - so he got an inch deep wounds, a lot of stitches and drainage for a week, in another case it was Chihuahua - not much tissue - so he ended up with a series of surgeries on the bones and cartilage in his shoulders.
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#249Earlier quoted context omitted.
How do these birds exist in the wild if a single predator sighting causes them to abandon their eggs? Edit: I'm downvoted, so this is a legitimate question. How could it be that these birds have lasted when one predator causes the abandonment of 3000 eggs? Has no predator ever appeared on these islands?
That's exactly why I'm surprised. I don't understand why the birds don't come back after the excitement is over -- except possibly the ones closest to the crash site.
Is it possible that in the circumstances, they can't find their nests? I assume that normally all the birds don't fly off all at once, so maybe that makes it easier to find their nests - perhaps they remember whose nests are next to whom (or is that too complex for birds?)- but when all the birds fly off at once then it becomes impossible to find one's own nest?
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#250Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's exactly why I'm surprised. I don't understand why the birds don't come back after the excitement is over -- except possibly the ones closest to the crash site.
Is it possible that in the circumstances, they can't find their nests? I assume that normally all the birds don't fly off all at once, so maybe that makes it easier to find their nests - perhaps they remember whose nests are next to whom (or is that too complex for birds?)- but when all the birds fly off at once then it becomes impossible to find one's own nest?
I believe they will all flush (i.e. fly away for defense) when a predator wanders by, so they have a survival mechanism for re-finding their nest.