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It's owned by a for-profit corporation.

What incentive does Bing have to hide evidence of a failed CIA coup attempt in China?

I personally believe it was a mistake. Safe search must be hard to maintain.

Re: There are no results for tank man

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post #490

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Eventually we probably need to figure out how to make the content robust even under vote manipulation. We're still far from that but I think it's...at least not out of the question. We're still at the very early stage of learning what's possible through community and culture (online, I mean).

The reputation this place has is well deserved.

You'll have to excuse me for being primed to read that statement in two very different ways :)

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This post is on the front page right now (edit: and now also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27396783 ) - that's the opposite of "disappearing". I'd have to see links to the other ones. Here's one tip for you guys, from years-long, world-weary experience: if you're coming up with sensational explanations in breathless excitement, it's almost certainly untrue. Edit: ok, here's what happened. Users flagged https:/…

I'm curious if tank man posts got flagged an unusual amount of times?

No, the flagging was well within the normal range of heavily-flagged posts, if that makes sense.

Re: There are no results for tank man

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It's owned by a for-profit corporation.

What incentive does Bing have to hide evidence of a failed CIA coup attempt in China?

Do you seriously believe that the Tiananmen Square protests in 1989 were backed by the CIA? What evidence do you have?

Re: There are no results for tank man

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post #396

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No doubt that's true but if you're saying something specific about HN, I'd like to know what it is. Also, the word 'censorship' is too vague now. People just use it about whatever they disagree with. So if you have a specific question, it would also be good to use more precise language. You guys need to realize that you have a trump card (can I say that? or too soon?) that users of other platforms don't have: direct…

Why not automatically punish users that abuse flagging to censor stories (e.g. users start with 100%, each flagging that’s removed decrease their flag-weight with 50%, so 3 wrong flags means 100->50->25-12.5%, and similarly, correct flags increase by 50%, and stories where mods haven’t accepted/rejected the flag will have no impact)? This way good actors that flag blog-spam and whatnot will not be impacted, whereas b…

It's a good question, in that it brings out the fundamental issue with these discussions.

> Why not automatically punish users that abuse flagging to censor stories

The problem is with the words "abuse" and "censor". No one can agree on what they mean because it depends on what you think of the underlying story, and when it comes to divisive topics, people have strongly differing views on that.

When the topics aren't so divisive (e.g. Conway's Game of Life on the GPU, or something like that), this is not such a thorny problem. But those aren't the cases that we're talking about in this thread.

Re: There are no results for tank man

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post #564

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What incentive does Bing have to hide evidence of a failed CIA coup attempt in China?

Do you seriously believe that the Tiananmen Square protests in 1989 were backed by the CIA? What evidence do you have?

>Do you seriously believe that the Tiananmen Square protests in 1989 were backed by the CIA?

Western intelligence generally rush to protect their assets, or at least they used to...

These regime change attempts have been ongoing for about a century, opium/heroin dealers/criminals and their western partners/suppliers didn't like getting shutdown by the Chinese government, primarily Mao.

When people ask, "Why is China a Surveillance State?", this is why...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Yellowbird

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So if someone wants to bury a story, now they know how to do it.

That's not quite accurate, but even if it were, there are easy ways to improve that bit of software if people start abusing it. You're right that most such software tricks, especially anti-abuse measures, need to be secret in order to stay working.

> That's not quite accurate, but even if it were, there are easy ways to improve that bit of software if people start abusing it.

How easy it would be for bad actors brigading with freshly created accounts, or not-so-freshly created accounts with a history of brigading, to abuse this feature to censor stories?

Re: There are no results for tank man

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post #564

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Do you seriously believe that the Tiananmen Square protests in 1989 were backed by the CIA? What evidence do you have?

>Do you seriously believe that the Tiananmen Square protests in 1989 were backed by the CIA? Western intelligence generally rush to protect their assets, or at least they used to... These regime change attempts have been ongoing for about a century, opium/heroin dealers/criminals and their western partners/suppliers didn't like getting shutdown by the Chinese government, primarily Mao. When people ask, "Why is China…

Ok, the CIA, British Secret service, and Jackie Chan helped the protesters escape China. That wasn’t my question.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concert_for_Democracy_in_Chi...

Was the primary driver of the Tiananmen Square protest caused by the CIA? Every credible source I’ve found indicates that the CIA was trying to figure out what was going on, but not initiating the protest.

https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB16/index.html

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post #494

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Aha, there really WAS something funny going on. Of course, do not attribute to conspiracy that which can be attributed to a bug! ;-)

It’s a bug and totally not a feature! ;)

^in hindsight, stupid comment.
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