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3,000 eggs abandoned after drone scares birds in California
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#182Re: 3,000 eggs abandoned after drone scares birds in California
#183“ That’s contributed not only to increased drone activity, but also to more dogs and bicycles on the trails – all of which are prohibited. “We’ve seen a significant increase in dogs, particularly off-leash,” Loebl said. “That’s devastating for wildlife and this is prime nesting season. The dogs chase the birds and the birds abandon their nests.” Another problem is the development of multimillion-dollar homes on the h…
If I were to poop in someone's front yard, I might go to jail. Yet, people constantly encourage human-sized pooping in my front yard -- every single day -- without any consequence at all.
Why do dogs get away with behaviour that would be blatantly offensive if done by a person?
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What's the point of walking a dog on a leash, though? Dogs need to stretch their legs. They're supposed to run around. The underlying problem is people taking in animals as pets without taking the responsibility that should be required as a dog owner.
Go buy a few private acres for that. If your dog shares public space with others you don’t get to just let it off leash.
I'm American, but I've lived in Germany (Hamburg) for ~1 year, cumulatively. I recall most dogs being leashed, but at least a few not. It didn't seem to matter to me, because every dog there was damn well trained. In that year, I think can recall one instance of a dog barking inappropriately (to the mortification of its owner).
I remember one dog in particular, which was unleashed and running with its owner, who was on a bike. It would run ahead, staying on the correct part of the sidewalk, until it reached a crosswalk or corner, then stop and calmly wait for its owner to catch up and give permission to cross. I think one time (of the 3 crosswalks it was in view for) it got impatient and went back to its owner instead of waiting in place.
As a result, dogs are commonly (though not always) allowed in restaurants -- they stay quietly under the table -- and some other venues, which would be unthinkable in the US.
There's not too much of a point to this comment, just sharing perspective. I guess if anything it's that I wouldn't be so categorical about "if X, then Y, period".
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My last girlfriend picked me up in San Diego and we drove 6 hours to Tucson after we had been apart for about a month. During the drive with her two dogs she told me while I was away there was an incident where her dog mauled a smaller dog and then bit the owner's face when she bent over to rescue her small dog. Her take away was pride as she was smart enough to just run off with her dog implying an idiot like me wou…
Don't know about the US, but in my jurisdiction, the dog would be killed by the police if it could be proved that it had bitten a human. There's very few exceptions to these rulings.
Same in Germany.
Through sadly this can even apply in situations where it was reasonable for the Dog to bite (e.g. in self defense or to defense their holder).
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What's the point of walking a dog on a leash, though? Dogs need to stretch their legs. They're supposed to run around. The underlying problem is people taking in animals as pets without taking the responsibility that should be required as a dog owner.
There are special places to let dog off leash to run around... Or buy a house with a yard
In some places they are aptly named "off leash parks".
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people with dogs off-leash are extremely inconsiderate. they're also the type to get hostile and even violent if you say anything
My last girlfriend picked me up in San Diego and we drove 6 hours to Tucson after we had been apart for about a month. During the drive with her two dogs she told me while I was away there was an incident where her dog mauled a smaller dog and then bit the owner's face when she bent over to rescue her small dog. Her take away was pride as she was smart enough to just run off with her dog implying an idiot like me wou…
OT, but you dodged a figurative bullet
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Sure, it doesn't always work that way. Dogs are still animals and can be unpredictable. That does not rise to the level of shooting some stray or off-leash dog. I still have puncture marks in my hand from when I dislodged a sucker from my childhood dogs throat and he bit down. Defending yourself and being a violent person are two different things. The man who shoots any off-leash or stray dog is just violent.
>Dogs are still animals and can be unpredictable. Which is precisely why they must be on a leash, always. Except in a fenced off area maybe.
There are a lot of places that put on their website or Google maps that they're dog friendly and allow off-leash or on-leash visits. So "always" is not even near correct here, it is on a dog owner (and other visitors) to determine whether the place they're visiting is dog-friendly and to what degree.
Re: 3,000 eggs abandoned after drone scares birds in California
#189I am guessing that drones are to birds what a Martian invasion would be to us - suddenly a new species has arrived and is persistent - it can go everywhere birds can go, it has spare energy enough to make aggressive noises constantly and it completely ignores any aggressive actions and attacks made to drive the drone off.
It has arrived and taken over the territory completely - so abandon the area.
My problem is if my conjecture is true, we basically have to ban drones ... everywhere.
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You have effectively picked the worst sample of dogs, and established a standard that a human being may take a life based on that standard. Dogs have tells too, and there's common ones that most dog owners will know: - ears backed with tail tucked or quick wagging - cowering / laying down (in a non-relaxed posture) - deep growls and a leg spread defensive stance And there's tells that occur far before the above. Dogs…
I actually like dogs. Id be honored to have my BF entrust his dog to me for a few days. But the onus is not on me to meet your pet half way, learn the species’ “tells” or pretend that there are no irresponsible owners. The onus is on you.
Yeah, sure, I mentioned tells because having more information is better. The onus is on me to protect my dog from sociopaths who bring guns to shoot random dogs that walk up to them (as a reminder, that is the situation we're discussing apart from your "defense of a child" scenario)