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Re: There are no results for tank man

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Or it could have been a normal employee that ticked the "censor everywhere" box rather than "censor china"

But why would it happen today? The term is likely censored year round in China, why would it suddenly go from China to global?

A lot of terms in China only get censored around the sensitive dates. Or, to put it differently, around the time that there is a sensitive date (PRC anniversary, CCP anniversary, June 4 etc) there seems to a burst of newly-censored terms. Because there is no official list of banned terms, this is done proactively by censors in the tech companies who want to avoid a potential warning from the government or pile-on from nationalist netizens.

It's possible that the English term "tank man" wasn't censored on Bing image search in China before, but it is now. Over there the Tiananmen massacre is usually referred to as the June 4 incident, so it's usually the characters 六四 (6 and 4) that are censored in search results. Because Bing isn't a very popular website in China, it might be that "tank man" slipped through until now.

Re: There are no results for tank man

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Here you go: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27394925 [Flagged] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27395028 [Marked as dupe] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27394943 [Currently on page 2]

dang 27 minutes ago [–] [flagged] on submissions nearly always means users flagged it. This is in the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html#flag https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27397158

Then un-flag it, dang.

You explained to me (and HN) recently that posts which are critical of HN itself are moderated less, not more, than others.

The same standard should apply to posts in which a greatly disadvantaged group are standing up to a vastly superior power, all else being equal (credibility, tactics, nature of grievance, etc.)

As with content concerning the events of June 4, 1989, in Tiananmen Square, China.

Dupes should be merged. Valid freestanding posts should be unflagged.

Re: There are no results for tank man

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The whole sentiment here is gross, but it is particularly fucked up how you keep going out of your way to pull Chinese-American people into it. Why not call me a Papist while you're at it?

If you post a story on HN with a list of historical atrocities attributable to the Roman Catholic Church or to Spanish colonialism, you can definitely expect a significant fraction of Latin American and Spanish people to take exception to it, and I've seen that happen on HN several times in the past. Recognizing and understanding that there are hot-button issues for particular political, national, and ethnic groups i…

For what it's worth Kragen, if you ever see this, I understand what you mean and I don't think that you're being racist. We can't even talk about the diversity of humans and what influences their intentions anymore without being called racist.

-Signed a Hindu American living in Asia

Re: There are no results for tank man

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In case you're wondering why this is news, there are numerous obvious, worldwide, relevant results: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_Man https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/25-years-later-tank-man-st... (Note: Microsoft owns this page!) https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/remembering-the-t...

Even if one of the most famous photographs ever taken wasn't called "tank man", it'd still be pretty weird for there to zero results. Try misspelling "man" or "tank", you'll get many results. "tanke man" says "including results for 'tank man'".

tank man Beijing returns one result

Re: There are no results for tank man

#309
As discussed extensively in the Bing thread [0] comments, this is because DDG uses Bing’s search index.

Microsoft has acknowledged this is in error...[1] (though the error seems to be that censorship meant to just apply to China is being applied everywhere)

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27395635

[1] https://www.vice.com/en/article/qj8v9m/bing-censors-tank-man

Re: There are no results for tank man

#310

This needs to be upvoted to the top so that we get some answers as to why this well-known history is not searchable via such a major tech company’s search functionality. It’s the top result via Google, why is Bing so bad at this?

To be fair a search of tank man on bing does have results including pictures. For some reason the same imagines that appear on the main search results page don't show up on the image results tab.

It appears the avatar in the chip (using Material nomenclature here for the UI components) for suggested search result "Tank Man China" has the original image, but clicking on the chip takes you a page missing said image.
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