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YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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Post by ldjb »

JI00912 wrote: post #260
pitaj wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't confirm without knowing what country you live in. I understand essentially the whole EU requires this, and the US is one example where the checks aren't required.

How would you confirm though? So far I'm seeing a lot of rumors but no one seems have produced any actual legislation that I can see anyway.

This is covered by the Audiovisual Media Services Directive 2018/1808. EU member states were supposed to transpose this into national legislation by 19 September 2020, but not all have.

You can see the status for each EU member state here:

https://www.obs.coe.int/en/web/observatoire/avmsd-tracking

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Post by wombatpm »

gruez wrote: post #42
buggeryorkshire wrote: post #26

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I had that too. A 14 year old account, with Google Cloud and Google One billing, plus many Google Store purchases and they still wanted me to prove my age. WTF?

That totally makes sense from a software engineering point of view. The age check was probably implemented as a "verified_age" column somewhere, and they didn't bother backfilling it with your existing google account info.

Any Googlers reading this discussion? Was there a valid reason for these decisions or did everyone just miss it?

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Post by da_big_ghey »

Aerroon wrote: post #180
wizzwizz4 wrote: post #70

If there's anyone running a YouTube channel getting hit by the age restrictions, consider running a PeerTube: https://joinpeertube.org/

But the age restriction is due to EU regulation. It's only a matter of time until it filters elsewhere. Switching from YouTube isn't going to make a difference.

Google are operating in EU, not so for Peertube. I am able to make Peertube instance and tell EU for to pound sand, it is distributed.

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Post by genericone »

toto444 wrote: post #14

A few days ago, I clicked an age restricted video on Youtube and usually I just state that I am above 18 but now they ask for a credit card number or an identity card to prove it. I am not going to send this just to watch some random video clip that users have declared not appropriate to a young audience because it features a zombie. Seriously!

This is how youtube and other SV websites will blackhole the undesirable channels and creators, mark my words.

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Post by sebmellen »

benbristow wrote: post #279
moogleii wrote: post #100

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Interesting, when does Apple ask for a cc for age verification? I don't think I've come across that UI. Edit: Looks like it might be an EU thing?

Must be. On major mobile networks in the UK, SIM cards/data plans by default have an adult content internet filter enabled. Blocks stuff like pornography (obviously) and even some other various adult age-focused content like gaming websites. (I've seen the EA Battlefield/Call Of Duty websites blocked before) Usually if you try to access, say, pornhub.com, it'll redirect (ala. WiFi captive portal style) to an internal…

This only reinforces my image of the UK as a long since resigned totalitarian police state — that, along with the huge 1984-esque CCTV posters with giant eyes hanging watchfully over a dreary autumn midday in London.

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Post by kllrnohj »

delusional wrote: post #198
jeroenhd wrote: post #43

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AFAIK the age restriction credit card thing (inside the EU) is the result of some stupid law change (the Audiovisual Media Services Directive). Google probably doesn't want to validate users' age (because selling ads to impressionable kids is very lucrative) but they have to now.

I'm so tired of tech people saying "it has to suck because the law requires it", when they clearly haven't read it. You hear it all the time when discussing tracking banners or ID verification. NO, the law does NOT require your implementation to suck, and most laws give you plenty of leeway in how you implement it. This is really not personal, but I HATE the argument. Take this as an example. The AVMSD isn't new, it…

> I'm so tired of tech people saying "it has to suck because the law requires it", when they clearly haven't read it. [..] The AVMSD isn't new, it was codified in 2010. It has a website[1]

You know, if you were going to rant about people not reading things, you probably should have first validated your own assumptions. AVMSD was just updated ( https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/revision-a... ) which just recently went into effect. The updated law requires online video platforms to age gate content for children. How, exactly, do you propose they do that with an implementation that doesn't suck?

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Post by KingMachiavelli »

speedgoose wrote: post #278
wizzwizz4 wrote: post #70

If there's anyone running a YouTube channel getting hit by the age restrictions, consider running a PeerTube: https://joinpeertube.org/

Last time I took a look at peertube it was tiny numbers of views and a lot of porn, which is fine but not my platform of choice.

Peertube is a federated platform... running your own instance or using an existing open instance that has some content restrictions would solve the mature content issue.

As far as 'views', in reality the vast majority of Youtube channels also get very few views. You can advertise/promote the Peertube instance just like you would promote a Youtube channel.

Another alternative is to just have Peertube mirror your YouTube channel and link to the instance in every video.

It really depends on the type of content you produce and how your content is 'discovered' but unless you are on the winning side of the Youtube algorithm, peertube isn't that worse.

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Post by swiley »

tonyaiken wrote: post #267
serf wrote: post #259

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>No, Apple doesn't dictate credit card verification requirements. that's the point parent was making; Apple made a decision about such things when allowing an app within their ecosystem that makes such choices (Skype, in this case).

Allowing something to happen isn’t dictating IMO.

It is when you're very strict about what you allow to happen. (which is the case with iOS apps.)

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Post by pa9am »

I got the pop-up a week back or so. I uploaded a photo of my drivers license with everything redacted except my name and date of birth and clearly watermarked it with the purpose and current date.

It was accepted automatically within a few seconds. Can't really complain.

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