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Usually its like a 30 second loop vs an actual music video.
We're rapidly approaching 30 seconds as the "standard" length for pop music.
tiktokization of pop music /s
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Sounds good. Say I'm a non-technical parent that wants to give my child access to YouTube but not allow them to watch content that they're not old enough to consume on their own. How should I do this? I want to give them the freedom to explore topics they're interested in so downloading some pre-approved videos isn't going to work. And my kid is smart and will realize that any account-specific setting can trivially b…
Say I'm a regular member of society and want to watch the trailer for a new Battlefield game. How should I do this? YouTube asks me to give them pictures of my ID for that. This is the mechanism that will be used for this right now. And it's all in the name of "protecting" children. This isn't some future hypothetical - it has already happened. I've been barred from a whole slew of content on YouTube because of this.…
I mean this already existed prior to YouTube, it's just that before you couldn't access the 18+ trailer at all outside of an R rated movie theater or late night TV because it had to be made for prime time and print where content restrictions were enforced.
I don't see this as any different than a theater asking to see your ID before letting your buy an R rated movie ticket. I sympathize that it's annoying hell but you probably also don't want Google deciding for themselves what your age is.
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In 2010, Google required your ID card if you enter a false birth date, and you are locked out of your account in the meantime. Happened to a colleague of mine because we were using Google Apps for Business. Because he didn’t want to give his real info to Google at work, he couldn’t work for 2 days and had to give Google his ID.
> In 2010, Google required your ID card if you enter a false birth date How do they know it's false? And if they know it's false why do they ask for it, they already have the right one.
> if they know it's false why do they ask for it, they already have the right one
Great question. It seems like it's being used as authentication, rather than authorization, in that it's meant to prove that you are who you say you are.
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...only in some jurisdictions where it's required by law.
It's not required in my country and I get the checks. This has nothing to do with legislation.
Do you get the check that you need any account, or the check that you specifically need an account with ID verification?
Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos
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Sounds good. Say I'm a non-technical parent that wants to give my child access to YouTube but not allow them to watch content that they're not old enough to consume on their own. How should I do this? I want to give them the freedom to explore topics they're interested in so downloading some pre-approved videos isn't going to work. And my kid is smart and will realize that any account-specific setting can trivially b…
I grew up with libraries and video stores for access to analogous materials and didn't have regular internet access until 1999. I really don't see why it's reasonable to expect the internet to supplant parenting duties that would have been reasonably expected in the pre-Youtube state of affairs. If you want to control what your kids see, don't let them have internet access. This is simply reality. I know that from th…
This isn't supplanting parenting duties, it's giving parents the tools to actually parent. Without this your options are basically no YouTube access at all or full YouTube access with zero granularity in-between. The default for logged-out people has to be restrictive or else it's trivial to bypass. The current rules for porn, alcohol, and mature games are a joke and have been since their inception. Everyone being born on Jan 1 1901 is a meme at this point. It's checking a regulatory box without actually doing anything and if YouTube tried it they would be raked over the coals.
Libraries do restrict the materials that can be checked out by minors and I doubt that counted as supplanting parenting. How else could you give your kid any level of independence without the cooperation of other people?
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Do you know _any_ parents that want their kids to consume ads?
The sane strategy is to simply avoid using an iPad as a babysitter rather than try to make everyone else’s life worse legislatively.
Right, and it's not the tobacco industry's fault that people die of lung cancer, people should just know better than to smoke in the first place.
And if you didn't know, children will eventually start using computers by themselves, probably before they are 12 (probably in first grade or kindergarten, I wouldn't be surprised). A huge portion of internet users are children. That's a fact. The reality is that a huge portion of children are online, and advertisers are specifically targeting children on youtube.
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You work so hard explaining to your friends good infosec practice like not just typing their credit card in because some site wants to "verify their age" and then Google and Apple just go and fuck around with stuff like this. At this point the best advice you can give your friends is "stay the fuck away from computers unless you're willing to sit down and read a bunch of FOSSS manuals."
On one hand, people have given up their credit card for worse pre-Internet or outside of the Internet (like "free" or nearly free trials that turn into a subscription service). On another, Google already has a lot of peoples' credit card numbers by way of Google Pay. Does this expose those people to any more risk?
It might not be that dangerous right now, but it sets a bad precedent. It gets users accustomed to that, and gives bad actors a cover for their activities: Look, Google does it!
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I hope I won't be considered presumptuous, but I suspect you don't have children? It is simply impossible to monitor absolutely everything.
And you should not do so.
I would say YMMV. If you have a child in a problematic scenario, your opinion might change.
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#229Although I'm not sure if this problem is fixed there, you should switch to yt-dlp for more active maintainance and added features/fixes: https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp
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Sorry I have the opposite perspectives as you: I don’t want to visit independent creators’ websites to find their content - all with different UIs, etc. YouTube gives me a clean, centralized way to access content where I know I will be able to stream 4K and view content offline. This feels massively more convenient to me than having to maintain a catalog of offline videos… While I think we all agree that centralizati…
I think you make a good point that centralization provides a lot of value today. However, if the protocols that youtube used where open-source then it would be easier to create generic user interfaces open to all content makers. Similar to what another poster said about RSS feeds. I think one of the deeper critiques you and several others have made is that someone still has to pay for storage and streaming. Today I a…
In my dream world where I have the energy (and time) to devote to writing software outside of work I would love to build something that satisfies this need. p2p creative content sharing which is user friendly so people can just run it and start sharing their work while also helping to distribute the work of others