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Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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Post by handrous »

sp332 wrote: post #131
jtbayly wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if you locked them down to YT for kids, do you honestly trust Google to accurately decide what is acceptable for kids? Yeah, no. I don't. (Remember when they had porn in there?) So how does this help, anyway?

Lately, they have been good. I don't blame you for mistrusting them because it took at least 4 scandals (I lost track), but they seem to have sorted it out.

Still much worse than just letting parents create an allow-list of channels or videos from any part of YT, including the non-"YouTube Kids" part :-/

It'd be nice to be able to turn them loose on a YouTube that was just educational videos I've curated, no weird toy unboxing shit, without having to, like, maintain my own file server and streaming service.

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Post by jobigoud »

laurent92 wrote: post #185
homero wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's really bad but seems to be some EU law, this isn't something Google ever wanted. An alternative would be entering your passport or something which would be even crazier

In 2010, Google required your ID card if you enter a false birth date, and you are locked out of your account in the meantime. Happened to a colleague of mine because we were using Google Apps for Business. Because he didn’t want to give his real info to Google at work, he couldn’t work for 2 days and had to give Google his ID.

> In 2010, Google required your ID card if you enter a false birth date

How do they know it's false? And if they know it's false why do they ask for it, they already have the right one.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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Post by JI00912 »

pitaj wrote: post #115
formerly_proven wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Title seems misleading, it can download it as long as you provide logged in account info ... assuming that you have provided YouTube with a scan of your ID card to prove that you are 18+ ...

...only in some jurisdictions where it's required by law.

It's not required in my country and I get the checks. This has nothing to do with legislation.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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Post by toto444 »

rolph wrote: post #175
toto444 wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIrmxOBnKcs

i get, from USA : from YT: An error occurred. Please try again later. (Playback ID: 5sTGvTkd9YkomV3x) Learn More from YT-DL: $ youtube-dl https://youtu.be/ZIrmxOBnKcs [youtube] ZIrmxOBnKcs: Downloading webpage [youtube] ZIrmxOBnKcs: Refetching age-gated info webpage WARNING: unable to download video info webpage: HTTP Error 404: Not Found Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.7/runpy.py", line 174…

In that case YT is asking me my details so that I can see that the video has been removed..

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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Post by JI00912 »

Aerroon wrote: post #180
wizzwizz4 wrote: post #70

If there's anyone running a YouTube channel getting hit by the age restrictions, consider running a PeerTube: https://joinpeertube.org/

But the age restriction is due to EU regulation. It's only a matter of time until it filters elsewhere. Switching from YouTube isn't going to make a difference.

Any source for that? A few people have claimed legislation to be a reason but I'm not aware of any such rules.

Actually I'd be very, very surprised if this was even in the jurisdiction of the EU.

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Post by pavel_lishin »

m463 wrote: post #183
toto444 wrote: post #14

A few days ago, I clicked an age restricted video on Youtube and usually I just state that I am above 18 but now they ask for a credit card number or an identity card to prove it. I am not going to send this just to watch some random video clip that users have declared not appropriate to a young audience because it features a zombie. Seriously!

A friend of mine had trouble with his young kid - he used a youtube video to walk himself through getting a credit card with grandma's birthday money. (I assume the prepaid cards you can get in the grocery store) They found out when they found a nintendo portable full of games in his closet. He was about 12.

How did everything end up shaking out? Were the parents on the hook for the credit card bill, or was the credit card company on the hook for issuing a card to Santos L. Helpar?

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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Post by delusional »

jeroenhd wrote: post #43
toto444 wrote: post #14

A few days ago, I clicked an age restricted video on Youtube and usually I just state that I am above 18 but now they ask for a credit card number or an identity card to prove it. I am not going to send this just to watch some random video clip that users have declared not appropriate to a young audience because it features a zombie. Seriously!

AFAIK the age restriction credit card thing (inside the EU) is the result of some stupid law change (the Audiovisual Media Services Directive). Google probably doesn't want to validate users' age (because selling ads to impressionable kids is very lucrative) but they have to now.

I'm so tired of tech people saying "it has to suck because the law requires it", when they clearly haven't read it. You hear it all the time when discussing tracking banners or ID verification. NO, the law does NOT require your implementation to suck, and most laws give you plenty of leeway in how you implement it. This is really not personal, but I HATE the argument.

Take this as an example. The AVMSD isn't new, it was codified in 2010. It has a website[1], and on that website you can read the rules (they even simplified them for us). The rules about minors are pretty relaxed[2]. For non-linear content (such as on-demand video) the law requires that content which "might seriously impair the physical, mental or moral development of minors" wont "normally" be seen/heard by kids. Nowhere does it say that YouTube has to require a National ID to show a video of a zombie. It's all interpretation, because that's how we do laws.

It's true that YouTube said that it's "in line with AVMSD"[3], but it's a lazy excuse to shove in a feature.

[1]: https://ec.europa.eu/archives/information_society/avpolicy/r... [2]: https://ec.europa.eu/archives/information_society/avpolicy/r... [3]: https://blog.youtube/news-and-events/using-technology-more-c...

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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Post by bruiseralmighty »

thethimble wrote: post #117
bruiseralmighty wrote: post #91

Hmm, it's such a shame that we have a single point of failure for so much of internet culture, not to mention people's actual creative lives. This is one of the reasons I started using youtube-dl. I wanted to create an independent backup of all my favorite creators and contributors in the event that they have to leave or delete their channels. This content should belong to everyone. I wish I could trust that all my f…

Sorry I have the opposite perspectives as you: I don’t want to visit independent creators’ websites to find their content - all with different UIs, etc. YouTube gives me a clean, centralized way to access content where I know I will be able to stream 4K and view content offline. This feels massively more convenient to me than having to maintain a catalog of offline videos… While I think we all agree that centralizati…

I think you make a good point that centralization provides a lot of value today. However, if the protocols that youtube used where open-source then it would be easier to create generic user interfaces open to all content makers. Similar to what another poster said about RSS feeds.

I think one of the deeper critiques you and several others have made is that someone still has to pay for storage and streaming. Today I am paying. I bought the additional hard disk to store this on. In addition to my time and effort to collect the files. In the future I would pay some amount each month to stream what I have if it gave me access to everyone else's (essentially staking my video files).

I don't mind paying for a good peer-to-peer service. In fact I feel that I am losing a lot more by staying with a legacy system. Hence backing up the videos I like even though I have no method of distributing them.

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Post by pavel_lishin »

pmlnr wrote: post #149
thethimble wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry I have the opposite perspectives as you: I don’t want to visit independent creators’ websites to find their content - all with different UIs, etc. YouTube gives me a clean, centralized way to access content where I know I will be able to stream 4K and view content offline. This feels massively more convenient to me than having to maintain a catalog of offline videos… While I think we all agree that centralizati…

> all with different UIs, etc. Let me introduce you to the concept of RSS and news/feed readers: https://aboutfeeds.com/

That's fine for discovering that an artist has put out a new video, not necessarily great for actually visiting their site and figuring out how to play it.
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