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YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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Post by bruiseralmighty »

Hmm, it's such a shame that we have a single point of failure for so much of internet culture, not to mention people's actual creative lives.

This is one of the reasons I started using youtube-dl. I wanted to create an independent backup of all my favorite creators and contributors in the event that they have to leave or delete their channels.

This content should belong to everyone. I wish I could trust that all my favorite videos will be there forever, but this is just not the case. Removing the comments on music videos already hurt a lot.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

#92

Post by rootusrootus »

Spivak wrote: post #81
wyager wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is parents’ job, not Google’s. If you legally require Google to act like a parent, they have to do it to everyone.

Sounds good. Say I'm a non-technical parent that wants to give my child access to YouTube but not allow them to watch content that they're not old enough to consume on their own. How should I do this? I want to give them the freedom to explore topics they're interested in so downloading some pre-approved videos isn't going to work. And my kid is smart and will realize that any account-specific setting can trivially b…

This is a tough question and I share it, with two elementary-age kids myself who love youtube. I don't have a good answer either. We put time limits on youtube and require that the kids use common-area computers to access it, but it would be nice if I could feel more confident about the content they're allowed to be exposed to.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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Post by ttt0 »

dividedbyzero wrote: post #15
h0nd wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Login alone does not help for age restricted videos. First step towards automatically stop using youtube. It their choice really.

You believe an appreciable number of people will stop using Youtube over this?

I don't know how many, but I certainly will.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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Post by jtbayly »

Spivak wrote: post #81
wyager wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is parents’ job, not Google’s. If you legally require Google to act like a parent, they have to do it to everyone.

Sounds good. Say I'm a non-technical parent that wants to give my child access to YouTube but not allow them to watch content that they're not old enough to consume on their own. How should I do this? I want to give them the freedom to explore topics they're interested in so downloading some pre-approved videos isn't going to work. And my kid is smart and will realize that any account-specific setting can trivially b…

Even if you locked them down to YT for kids, do you honestly trust Google to accurately decide what is acceptable for kids? Yeah, no. I don't. (Remember when they had porn in there?)

So how does this help, anyway?

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

#97

Post by standardUser »

toto444 wrote: post #14

A few days ago, I clicked an age restricted video on Youtube and usually I just state that I am above 18 but now they ask for a credit card number or an identity card to prove it. I am not going to send this just to watch some random video clip that users have declared not appropriate to a young audience because it features a zombie. Seriously!

A credit card seems like a reasonable way to verify age. Can you think of a better way? Or do you think no content should be age restricted?

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

#98

Post by pbhjpbhj »

wyager wrote: post #59
StavrosK wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Google probably doesn't want to validate users' age (because selling ads to impressionable kids is very lucrative) but they have to now. I mean, I hate this age validation as much as everyone else, curbing advertising to impressionable kids doesn't sound too stupid to me...

This is parents’ job, not Google’s. If you legally require Google to act like a parent, they have to do it to everyone.

Well then parents should apply legislative pressure, which should arrive at Google as "fix this or we legislate", and bingo, Google need to do something. That is parents doing parenting. Parenting happens through societal structures.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

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Post by manigandham »

gruez wrote: post #42
buggeryorkshire wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had that too. A 14 year old account, with Google Cloud and Google One billing, plus many Google Store purchases and they still wanted me to prove my age. WTF?

That totally makes sense from a software engineering point of view. The age check was probably implemented as a "verified_age" column somewhere, and they didn't bother backfilling it with your existing google account info.

It doesn't make sense for a trillion-dollar company known for some of the best software engineering. There are remarkable lapses in UX with Google products.

Re: YouTube-dl can no longer download age-restricted videos

#100

Post by moogleii »

swiley wrote: post #46
toto444 wrote: post #14

A few days ago, I clicked an age restricted video on Youtube and usually I just state that I am above 18 but now they ask for a credit card number or an identity card to prove it. I am not going to send this just to watch some random video clip that users have declared not appropriate to a young audience because it features a zombie. Seriously!

You work so hard explaining to your friends good infosec practice like not just typing their credit card in because some site wants to "verify their age" and then Google and Apple just go and fuck around with stuff like this. At this point the best advice you can give your friends is "stay the fuck away from computers unless you're willing to sit down and read a bunch of FOSSS manuals."

Interesting, when does Apple ask for a cc for age verification? I don't think I've come across that UI.

Edit: Looks like it might be an EU thing?

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