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The Anxiety of Influencers

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Re: The Anxiety of Influencers

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Post by benjaminwootton »

theshadowknows wrote: post #105
tmaly wrote: post #36

I think TikTok is fundamentally changing marketing. If you go on YouTube, you see 1-2 traditional ads. On TikTok all the ads blend in and just appear as another video in your for you page. What I thought was really interesting was that 50% of the user base is over the age of 30.

Because it lets adult men watch young scantily clad boys and girls jump around for free. That’s the sick part to me. These kids (and they are kids) are basically soft core porn for pedophiles. And Nike and Amazon subsidize it.

What an ignorant thing to post. They have around 1 billion MAU. So the hundreds of millions over 18 are all paedos?

For my sins I’ve wasted many an hour on Tiktok and it’s usually funny videos, memes and other mindless content so you’ve obviously not even seen it.

Honestly, people should need a license to comment on the internet nowadays.... Jeez.

Re: The Anxiety of Influencers

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Post by loveistheanswer »

peteretep wrote: post #50

> According to a poll released in 2019, some 54 percent of Americans between the ages of thirteen and thirty-eight would, if given the chance, become a social-media influencer. A whopping 23 percent believed that this term already fit them. EDIT: Jesus, this article is the gift that keeps giving: > Later, when I ask Chase [about the veracity of the video he] explains that the video must be legit because “it’s gotten…

>Epistemologically, this is where we are as a country: when content gets expurgated because of blatant misinformation, it is taken as a sure sign of that source’s truthfulness.

Its funny how oblivious pro-censorship people are to the nature, effects, and history of censorship

Re: The Anxiety of Influencers

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Post by gerbilly »

These kids are letting themselves be exploited.

They are being 'paid' with useless perks like luxury accommodations, and shoes and clothes.

The 'perks' aren't even a reward, but are the just 'products in use' that the advertisers are using to make money.

In olden days, as exploitative as it was, you'd still have to pay a model to wear your clothes if you wanted to create an ad campaign. Now they'll do it for the 'privilege' of having cool gear.

Re: The Anxiety of Influencers

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Post by jm_l »

peteretep wrote: post #50

> According to a poll released in 2019, some 54 percent of Americans between the ages of thirteen and thirty-eight would, if given the chance, become a social-media influencer. A whopping 23 percent believed that this term already fit them. EDIT: Jesus, this article is the gift that keeps giving: > Later, when I ask Chase [about the veracity of the video he] explains that the video must be legit because “it’s gotten…

I came across this article a few weeks ago. The 23% number seems to be from this poll https://morningconsult.com/influencer-report-engaging-gen-z-...

The author is mistakenly adding the 12% and 11% numbers. The real proportion is around 12% of young people. Given that in the poll, "influencer" is used basically synonymously with "celebrity" (Will Smith is considered an influencer) I'd say this is pretty reasonable actually.

Re: The Anxiety of Influencers

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Post by throwaway0a5e »

theshadowknows wrote: post #102

Man. When I was 18 I was overweight and already balding. I worked at a gas station. Once a hooker spit on me because I wouldn’t let her steal some ice cream. I cut my foot once on broken glass in the dumpster because part of my job was tamping it down with my feet (it cut through my shoe). Would I have traded it to be an influencer if I could have? Shit yeah in a heartbeat. But unfortunately for me no one wanted to w…

Trying to cater to consumer whims and maintain relevancy (which is what influencers are doing) is a blurry moving target that multi-million dollar corporate marketing departments can't even consistently hit. The dumpster is practically deterministic by comparison.

Granted the income ceiling without adding skills is much lower but I would rather do a crappy job with trash than do a crappy job with consumers any day (and back when I worked such jobs I made that choice).

Re: The Anxiety of Influencers

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Post by axiom92 »

ALittleLight wrote: post #87
axiom92 wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Even analytic beliefs are things you believe because you experienced arriving at them? What about scientific beliefs? Only a handful of people can really understand (or to align with your phrasing, _experience_ understanding) all the evidence there is to support the Big Bang theory. Yet, a much larger number accepts it. And lemmas? I'm sure there are some lemmas I just use in proofs but have never proved from the fi…

You still learn those things, whether lemmas or beliefs about the Big Bang, from experience. You don't necessarily have the experience of deriving these things from first principles or from evidence yourself - someone told you, you read it in a book, etc. How did you know who or what you could trust? Why do you believe in some books and not others? Again, your experience tells you which are more trustworthy. You have…

Hmm I see your point. It's a bit abstract but makes sense to me.

Re: The Anxiety of Influencers

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Post by rsynnott »

nradov wrote: post #49
redisman wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't have to be rich to buy luxury goods. In fact most of them are bought by people who can't afford them but desperately want to own them. There's credit cards, parents, using all your disposable income on them since you don't pay rent, etc.

Right. The people who can actually afford $500 shoes aren't the ones buying Balenciaga sneakers that look like clown shoes. Actual wealthy people are generally not easily influenced suckers.

> Actual wealthy people are generally not easily influenced suckers.

I think you only have to look at the truly high-end luxury market to see that that's not true. A _staggering_ amount is spent on absurd products that only multi-millionaires can afford. And they've very much doing it to one-up the other multi-millionaires.

The likes of watches that cost tens of thousands and cars that cost hundreds of thousands are generally actually-wealthy-person territory, say.

Re: The Anxiety of Influencers

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Post by meowzero »

I used to know a few influencers. I still do. I was part of that culture since I was a photographer and cared about my social media clout. This was 3-4 years ago, when IG used to rule, instead of Tiktok. I don't know if things changed since then.

Most of these influencers looked miserable. It seemed like they were having the best times in various exotic locations. In reality, they were all broke. They barely scratched by staying at the cheapest places, eating cheapest foods, etc. They're stressed out trying to get content and followers

They're fake as well. I took some photos of one influencer in the my studio. She posted the photos few weeks later with the location tagged as Bali, NYC, etc. I thought that was funny.

Another, I mentioned to her that I noticed she's using comment pods due to the way some people commented on her posts. I wasn't accusing her, only stated a fact I noticed. She got embarrassed, denied, and acted like she didn't know what a comment pod was. I pushed it a bit more and she relented she was using pods. Why so fake?

I'm glad I'm out of that world. It adds too much stress in your life to produce content, find followers, and to create world where you seem cool and popular when you're not.

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Post by yawaworht1978 »

defaultname wrote: post #124
yawaworht1978 wrote: post #112

Influencer is the 2020s equivalent to the dream job actor/model/dancer. When I see the level of delusions on these most unwelcome tiktok ads I get, I need a moment to calm down from laughing. Stay away from social media as much as you can. I have deleted fb, ig and WhatsApp, life was never better. People get in touch via call or signal, not missing a thing.

What TikTok ads are you referring to? Users often get completely different targeting, but the ads I've seen have been mainstream fast food and then dumb consumer crap like moon lights. Also Old Navy and some car company. TikTok is really the anti-"influencer" platform. It is a very wide, long tail and doesn't seem to concentrate like many other platforms. People seem to be completely ordinary , versus the delusion th…

It is very odd, as I have never installed the app or even googled the term. I have seen some as linked Instagram feeds, but involuntary. Tiktok would be the last thing in the world I care about, I am also quite a bit beyond that age bracket. Usually it's a woman doing a poorly choreographed dance move or two while displaying a duck face. I am not sure if that is possible but maybe somehow there is an IG/tiktok data exchange if someone has an account on both. This still happens even though I have terminated the ig and fb accounts a while ago

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Post by dash2 »

meowzero wrote: post #148

I used to know a few influencers. I still do. I was part of that culture since I was a photographer and cared about my social media clout. This was 3-4 years ago, when IG used to rule, instead of Tiktok. I don't know if things changed since then. Most of these influencers looked miserable. It seemed like they were having the best times in various exotic locations. In reality, they were all broke. They barely scratche…

What's a comment pod?
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