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The Anxiety of Influencers

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Post by whall6 »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #57
snowwrestler wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the few named brands in the story is a fried chicken place. You don’t have to be rich to afford fried chicken. But fried chicken is a multi-billion-dollar industry. And it’s an industry that is deeply dependent on advertising to maintain brand awareness and segment the market. All fried chicken tastes basically the same, so customers choose stores based on brand attributes. Are you a Popeyes, KFC, or Chick-fil…

> All fried chicken tastes basically the same How many places have you had fried chicken in?

Some palates just aren’t as refined my friend

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Post by koolba »

smitty1e wrote: post #44
prostoalex wrote: post #18

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"In the future, everyone will be famous to fifteen people".

They will become increasingly addicted to that fame, and some will drift into chemicals and porn and tragedy. It is not my place to judge this, but some will look back and reflect.

Interestingly the first wave of social media influencers started with porn videos and drug problems. It’s a flat circle.

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Post by cupcake-unicorn »

I'm a millennial and didn't really have social media growing up. I used Facebook for a little bit in college and then deleted it. It bothered me in my 20s that a lot of social things seemed to be closed to me because I didn't have some form of social media. Even though I had email and text I was somehow treated as if I was asking to be contacted on a fax machine or something like that. It's baffling.

Every time I've even gotten a little bit closer to joining some online community, let alone social media, my anxiety spirals and I have severe mental health symptoms. For my own good and my disinterest I keep off of it for now. Honestly HN is as far as I push those limits!

I can't imagine how this could have been though if social media was a constant throughout my childhood and middle school. It was hard enough dealing with the social fallout in my 20s but I felt like I at least had some degree of choice and control and I feel if I had taken it for granted when I was younger I would have had really severe symptoms growing up probably leading to hospitalization.

Obviously the influencers in that article aren't like me in that regard but I was shocked by the 54% of younger people wanting to make money being an influencer comment, wow! And I do think there's a serious exploitative/mental health factor that's not being addressed here. I wonder how this is going to turn out for those kids later in life. I just can't imagine being under the spotlight and dependent on external validation that much.

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Post by keiferski »

gexla wrote: post #63

Can't take the time to dig further right now, but is this a riff off... The Anxiety of Influence: A Theory of Poetry is a 1973 book by Harold Bloom.

Unfortunately not. The premise of that book would be an interesting contemporary article, though: the anxiety of needing to differentiate yourself as an influencer while inevitably being influenced by other influencers.

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Post by EthanHarv »

jp0d wrote: post #11

What a horrible life these kids have. They don't realise it. Their influencing value is inversely proportional to their rise in numbers. If everyone becomes and influencer, who'll they influence. And why does anyone need influencing. It's just advertising by reinvented. Most of it is just showing skin.

FWIW, as a younger person, I have started to see friends (and myself) shift away from influencer culture as it becomes apparent it's unhealthy. When you see so many influencers quit due to mental health, it starts to add up. My perspective is likely skewed by the social groups I tend towards, but the cycle of influencer culture is so short-lived a lot of us do start to catch on.

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exporectomy wrote: post #66
peteretep wrote: post #50

> According to a poll released in 2019, some 54 percent of Americans between the ages of thirteen and thirty-eight would, if given the chance, become a social-media influencer. A whopping 23 percent believed that this term already fit them. EDIT: Jesus, this article is the gift that keeps giving: > Later, when I ask Chase [about the veracity of the video he] explains that the video must be legit because “it’s gotten…

> when content gets expurgated because of blatant misinformation, it is taken as a sure sign of that source’s truthfulness. The difficulty is that it can mean either it's true and the authorities don't want you to know it, or it's false and they don't want you to believe it. Judging information either way based only on it being censored leads to error of two different types. Neither is correct thinking but plenty of…

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Post by axiom92 »

ALittleLight wrote: post #48
ptd wrote: post #40

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You’re being asked to consider the possibility that your family experiences have influenced this view. Not that you are incorrect, or even correct, the parent statement is simply saying you hold this belief because if you’re experiences.

What beliefs do you have that aren't from experiences? Even analytic beliefs are things you believe because you experienced arriving at them. e.g. I believe 2+2 is 4 because of my experiences with math and calculation, in the same way I believe putting my hand on a hot plate might hurt because of my experience with hot things etc.

>Even analytic beliefs are things you believe because you experienced arriving at them?

What about scientific beliefs? Only a handful of people can really understand (or to align with your phrasing, _experience_ understanding) all the evidence there is to support the Big Bang theory. Yet, a much larger number accepts it.

And lemmas? I'm sure there are some lemmas I just use in proofs but have never proved from the first principles.

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Post by SamoyedFurFluff »

cupcake-unicorn wrote: post #73

I'm a millennial and didn't really have social media growing up. I used Facebook for a little bit in college and then deleted it. It bothered me in my 20s that a lot of social things seemed to be closed to me because I didn't have some form of social media. Even though I had email and text I was somehow treated as if I was asking to be contacted on a fax machine or something like that. It's baffling. Every time I've…

> I wonder how this is going to turn out for those kids later in life. I just can't imagine being under the spotlight and dependent on external validation that much.

It’s not just millennial who deal with this. LinkedIn is becoming inescapable… not to mention any advocacy for a “platform” as part of a resume

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Post by axiom92 »

seibelj wrote: post #47
ptd wrote: post #40

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You’re being asked to consider the possibility that your family experiences have influenced this view. Not that you are incorrect, or even correct, the parent statement is simply saying you hold this belief because if you’re experiences.

Only on HN would advocating for the importance of family be rabidly downvoted. Family is a universal component of human civilization. Our current president has repeatedly stated the utmost importance of his family, as has every president. What makes family bonds so strong is that they won’t turn your back on you when you are in a bind. They are much stronger than friends. Stable households are the most important pred…

>What makes family bonds so strong is that they won’t turn your back on you when you are in a bind. They are much stronger than friends. Stable households are the most important predictor for childhood success.

This is blanket generalization. Such generalizations are (rightfully) hard to prove. It is likely that families are a positive force for _most_ people, but I am not sure if there is research that concludes that every single human would benefit from having a family/should put up with whatever family they have?

Going back to my original point, any "list" of N things cannot possibly fit all humans. Other people might have different opinions based on their own life experiences.

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Post by axiom92 »

seibelj wrote: post #28
axiom92 wrote: post #26

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>These are the only things in life that truly matter. Not really, such lists are typically a function of personal experiences. For example, plenty of people would happily take family out from the list.

I would argue you should make a new family. People who eschew the concept of family live a less fulfilling life IMO.

>I would argue you should make a new family.

Not sure what you mean by that? Is family always a good thing by definition in your books? (i.e., if X is bad, X is not a family). If so, then your deduction is correct but trivial, and overall the argument doesn't make much sense to me.

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