Allow ... for 1/5+ humanity. For a fundamental human rights. And we are ok with it, aren’t we?
China allows couples to have three children
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Re: China allows couples to have three children
#322A lot of people are asking why a policy is even still needed - why not go for no limit at all? 1) There is an entire family planning bureaucracy within the CCP setup to manage this; would do you do with all those people if they are not needed anymore? 2) China is more strict on population planning for certain minorities - not officially, but in the background; think Muslims in western China or Tibet or Mongolians, or…
Historically, minorities were allowed to have more children than Han Chinese, FYI. Han only reached the same child allowance recently.
Actually rural area as well. Done of my chinese have a brother or sister ... surprise me a lot.
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#323Earlier quoted context omitted.
How?
Fines seem like the most straightforward approach, though there are certainly tradeoffs with anything.
That only encourages those who have both the need and the abilityto prioritize budgeting/saving to think ttwice about having kids. In other words, that really only targets the middle class.
Re: China allows couples to have three children
#324A lot of people are asking why a policy is even still needed - why not go for no limit at all? 1) There is an entire family planning bureaucracy within the CCP setup to manage this; would do you do with all those people if they are not needed anymore? 2) China is more strict on population planning for certain minorities - not officially, but in the background; think Muslims in western China or Tibet or Mongolians, or…
Historically, minorities were allowed to have more children than Han Chinese, FYI. Han only reached the same child allowance recently.
absolutely.
ethnic Korean from north east China here, many of my relatives had 2 children while our Han neighbors only had 1
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#325Won’t be long before three children are mandatory.
Please don't post unsubstantive comments and/or flamebait to HN. You started a wretched flamewar with this. Not cool.
Re: China allows couples to have three children
#326A lot of people are asking why a policy is even still needed - why not go for no limit at all? 1) There is an entire family planning bureaucracy within the CCP setup to manage this; would do you do with all those people if they are not needed anymore? 2) China is more strict on population planning for certain minorities - not officially, but in the background; think Muslims in western China or Tibet or Mongolians, or…
Anchoring. A lot of people would otherwise only have the idea to have two, but you tell them they can only have 3, they might max out their limit.
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#327Earlier quoted context omitted.
> There is some question on whether the one-child policy was even needed. > The ghastly human rights violations that led from the policy were completely unnecessary. No, this was entirely intentional. That was the whole point. This is "the big lie theory" taken to its extreme. It was done to keep people, and party cadres preoccupied. If you were to speak to an adult Chinese at around late eighties, the 1 child policy…
Right. And you known who proposed and architected the "one-child policy": Yinchu Ma. His theory is influenced by Malthus [2]. And you know what, Mr. Ma's theory were not recognized until Mr. Deng come into power. And Mr. Deng realized there are so many people but no way the economy machine is going to find jobs for so many people. Although in the end Mr. Ma and Malthus were all wrong. They never experienced the prosp…
I like her shit. Good comment
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#328Interesting side note on china during the one-child policy era. This policy was enforced on the masses but highly educated people were given waivers. If you were a engineer, professor or any highly skilled professional you were encouraged to have lots of children. China’s one child policy was mainly about population control but also had a eugenics component to it as well.
Maybe I am dumb, but what's wrong with so called "Positive Eugenics"? I.e encouraging people with good genetic qualities and here, good resources for children's upbringing, to have more children?
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#329Earlier quoted context omitted.
I totally understand you. Peoples come in here and just go on criticize policies because they don't know the reality of living in an overpopulated country with limited ressources. In Africa, Burundi, my country of 28km2, we have more than 90% of the litigations in the courts about land and properties. Siblings kill each other for land! We have 5.4 children/woman. One of the biggest natality rate in Africa. Only surpa…
> What do you think we need to do? Generally speaking: reduce child mortality (better health care), urbanize/industrialize, educate women. Every country that has done with over the last ~200 years has seen a drop in fertility rates.
Absolutely! We have been doing so for the last 20 years. Reducing child mortality at the fastest rate in East Africa. Women education is one of our top achievement from those years. Urbanization and industrialization is the only thing that's coming slow.
Life is still not so expensive for the families (essentially men) are still having more babies than they can afford to nurture!
It's a pity to watch.
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#330There is some question on whether the one-child policy was even needed. If you look at a graph of "children per mother" chart before and after the original policy went into effect, it's quite evident that rates were dropping for more than a decade beforehand: * https://www.stlouisfed.org/on-the-economy/2016/october/china... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Birth_rate_in_China.svg * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O…
It is absolutely necessary. I have no doubt about it.
There is a very strong Chinese pro Chinese belief to have many Children. Most of my grandfather generation. Chinese first generation immigrants have more than 5 children. 9 children is very common.