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Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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Windows is like Idiocracy. It’s a disastrous shitshow of capitalism gone absurd, yet everyone there thinks it’s fantastic and that Windows is what plants crave.

The same holds for the spyware shitshow called Android.

GrapheneOS.org, CalyxOS etc would like a word.

Google Android ≠ Android (AOSP)

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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post #71

Windows is like Idiocracy. It’s a disastrous shitshow of capitalism gone absurd, yet everyone there thinks it’s fantastic and that Windows is what plants crave.

Yeah but WSL2 and Visual Studio Code ...

All work on Linux, lol

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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No, not for many of us at least. Has't worked reliably for me and a number of others for close to a decade I think (the first blog post I know of that mention it is from 2011 or 2013 I think.) Oh, and I think it is the same thing as others mention in this discussion: infantilization and "we know better than you". But being Google it might also be just general lack of care.

i believe there's a setting somewhere to enable verbatim search, but yeah google has steadily been getting worse

I have known about that for about as long as I've had this problem and I think it used to work back then but today I consider it a purely decorative element.

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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HACKERNEWS friendly comment, since my last one got "flagged"

i didn't want to hurt microsoft PR people, my bad!

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I wonder why microsoft is forced to use same adware tactics to encourage people to use their products

Wouldn't products automatically get users if they are good? specially when they are made by the vendor of the system?

maybe the issue is they are just bad products?

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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post #196

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I just think there can be a lot of perverse interests at play when a major software vendor also owns the place where all the code lives. For instance, VSCodium is not available as a native download for M1 processors because GitHub Actions don’t support M1 yet. Would Microsoft potentially delay supporting CI/CD for M1 because it’s not in their strategic best interest to support Mac as a development platform? It’s not…

To be fair, unless Apple collaborated with Microsoft before the launch, it's not trivial to add that as a target to the pipeline in a production ready environment. I'm not even sure Apple allows any virtualized instance which poses a major impediment to implementing this. One can always use a self hosted runner to make it work.

I'm not saying this is what happened, I'm just saying this is the type of situation where an MS-owned github could have interests un-aligned with developers, where it might not be the case with an independent github

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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Understanding the difference between security and privacy is why I actually use Edge on Windows for some desktop tasks.

There is no difference between security and privacy. If you have no privacy, compromising your security is easy. If you have no security, compromising your privacy is easy. Guarding one protects the other.

Correct.

Need to do those in different ways at different times.

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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The ways Microsoft wants to trick users into using edge, using all sorts of dark-patterns, has rapidly increased with the launch of chromium edge. Opening Edge on startup, asking in Windows update-screens, putting Edge on the desktop and taskbar, asking to change to Edge when clicking on links, dissuading users when searching for browsers on bing, advertising Edge in the start-menu, it goes on... Chromium Edge is bri…

What choice do they have when Google pushes Chrome aggressively on every website they own if you visit it on any other browser?

Does this happen? I have been using Firefox on macOS for years and I don't recall running into this

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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This is the kind of thing which makes me roll my eyes when people try to argue that the "New Microsoft(tm)" is actually benevolent and developer friendly, and I should be happy about things like them acquiring Github.

I just installed Windows again for the first time in 20 years (certain games still won’t run on anything else) and after all the talk of how much things have improved, I was shocked at just had bad it is. It’s almost dystopian how tracked and marketed I feel. I think I finally have all the switches flipped that I need to stop things popping up in my face, but goodness. They’re the same as they ever were.

I'm right there with you. I work on macOS and I'm 90% Linux at home, and the odd time I have to boot into Windows for something I'm amazed people put up with it.

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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post #190

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I kinda get it. MS is looking at other tech companies that do this without any backlash and keeps wondering why they are singled out. If you ignore their history it is not a completely meritless line of thought. Why shouldn't they try if evey other company gets away woth it?

Maybe because it's an operating system you pay for, and it's more aggressive than competitors. > MS is looking at other tech companies that do this without any backlash and keeps wondering why they are singled out ... Why shouldn't they try if evey other company gets away woth it? Since when is MS late to the party on this one? They lost a huge anti-trust action for privileging their own browser decades ago. If anyth…

I disagree. I do apologize since the language I used may have been a little too much of a mental shortcut, but it was not intended as such.

I am not arguing fairness. I am arguing that process and laws should apply and be applied the same way for all participants. I do not think that is such a radical idea. Frankly, we would all benefit, if justice was truly blind ( long term ).

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