China allows couples to have three children

Post by jackling » Mon, May 31, 2021, 1:49 PM UTC

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I spent years travelling around SE Asia, and met plenty of Chinese, enough to decide I did not want to go there. All of them were openly racist (mind you, all of SE Asia is openly racist, so this is nothing unusual). I accept that there are minority ethnic identities within China, but I have been told over and again (by Chinese people) that China is Han. I have Chinese friends here in Berlin who still won't talk abou…

My direct experience contradicts your direct experience. I'm Chinese, grew up in China until I was 5, and visit it every now and again. > I have been told over and again (by Chinese people) that China is Han. You are either selectively reporting, or selectively misremembering things based on your own existing prejudices. I have certainly talked to more Chinese people than you, and nobody has ever said this. I lived i…

Post by seanmcdirmid » Mon, May 31, 2021, 1:52 PM UTC

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You seem to have a bit of sour grapes that a non-Western country dares to talk positively about their own policies. You should understand that translations often lose some cultural context, so when you have a prejudice against the English word "harmonious", understand that the Chinese equivalent is used much more freely in everyday speech. "Solidarity" might have been a better translation. -- Reply to the comment bel…

I've been to Tibet, and the endless barrage of slogans and posters celebrating 和谐 and 西藏各族人民的幸福生活 are there for a reason.

Post by dougmwne » Mon, May 31, 2021, 1:58 PM UTC

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This doesn't seem intrinsically terrible to me, particularly if it's done through incentives and doesn't involve say, murder or sterilisation. If we accept that any biome will eventually have a finite carrying capacity while the possibility of human reproduction is exponential it seems inevitable that there must be some limits to reproduction. Regulation is crude but might be less bad than "direct environmental feedb…

Murders or "abortions" in final stages of pregnancy were commonly used in China to enforce this policy. See https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8923482/

Post by [deleted] » Mon, May 31, 2021, 1:58 PM UTC

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Wasn’t their some policy saying that rural mothers could have a second child if their first was a girl? If they each had the maximum number of children, it would lead to an average of about 1 boy and 0.75 girls per rural mother.

If everyone in the planet gets to toss a coin, and if it comes up heads you get to toss it again, that doesn't mean that there are any more tails than heads, each coin toss is just a coin toss, independent from any other.

Post by xyzzy123 » Mon, May 31, 2021, 2:01 PM UTC

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This doesn't seem intrinsically terrible to me, particularly if it's done through incentives and doesn't involve say, murder or sterilisation. If we accept that any biome will eventually have a finite carrying capacity while the possibility of human reproduction is exponential it seems inevitable that there must be some limits to reproduction. Regulation is crude but might be less bad than "direct environmental feedb…

It turns out that as countries develop their birth rates naturally decline and eventually turn negative without requiring the government to set the number of children you can have. Indeed Japan and others are doing almost everything possible to encourage people to have more children and cannot get their populations to return to growth.