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Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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I also have sporadic advertisements on my start bar (when I press the win key), sometimes it suggests an app, which looks just like any other app, the only difference is a "SUGGESTED" header which is easy to miss. I assume when you click on that, it opens the store app. It appears at the very top and AFAIK there's no way to disable it.

Settings > Personalization > Start, turn off Show suggestions occasionally in Start

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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The ways Microsoft wants to trick users into using edge, using all sorts of dark-patterns, has rapidly increased with the launch of chromium edge. Opening Edge on startup, asking in Windows update-screens, putting Edge on the desktop and taskbar, asking to change to Edge when clicking on links, dissuading users when searching for browsers on bing, advertising Edge in the start-menu, it goes on... Chromium Edge is bri…

I kinda get it. MS is looking at other tech companies that do this without any backlash and keeps wondering why they are singled out. If you ignore their history it is not a completely meritless line of thought. Why shouldn't they try if evey other company gets away woth it?

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They got slammed for anti-trust with IE and then noticed Apple got away with even worse on iOS. Now they've doubled down.

Google really started this though. And they didn’t use anti competitive advertising practices to kill IE, they used them to kill Firefox.

Firefox is far from dead. I switched back to Firefox from Chrome and it’s been freeing. The extension migration was a pain, but I found almost everything I needed and purged stuff I didn’t.

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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I use the software W10Privacy[1] to change my settings from all the nagging implemetrations. With it, you can (not) completely uninstall Edge, but restrict it so much that it no longer bothers you.

This can also be used to display the internet advertisements, the "important" notices and other hints with which Windows wants to promote its not-so-good products.

[1]https://www.w10privacy.de/english-home/

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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LTSC is the answer (despite what MS "advocates" will tell you) no autoreboot, no MS store, no onedrive, no ads I've had a legitimate copy on my gaming pc for 18 months now without issue aliexpress has an excellent range of grey market keys...

On Pro, I have no auto-reboot, OneDrive is disabled, no ads, and the Store is useful at times and can easily be ignored when I'm not using it. I'm not sure how LTSC would be an improvement.

they're features of the OS controllable in the group policy editor

rather than downloading some third party app that attempts to break the functionality without (hopefully) breaking other features

(also hoping some new update doesn't re-enable what you thought you disabled)

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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And people wonder why I still don't trust Micro$oft, even if they say they're supporting open source.

I don’t think this is really related. Google supports open source & they do basically the same sort of stuff. Open source at this point is just common sense. It’s more profitable than a fully proprietary model in many cases.

Open source = "our code isn't worth much anymore, we have other sources of revenue now".

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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Genuinely interested, why would Win7 be worse than Win10 if you had the same network setup, same browser (same extensions) and behaved the same as you do with Win10? I ask as even at home, my different devices all use the same browser/extensions, VPN and browsing habits. I use established FOSS where possible and the only problems I have had since Windows 98 are from data breaches (nothing I could have prevented with…

All sorts of security features in the browser only work on newer operating systems: Hardware-enforced Stack Protection: https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-chrome-this-new-feature... Significant improvements to ASLR starting in Windows 8: https://msrc-blog.microsoft.com/2013/12/11/software-defense-... And many more things. New Windows releases aren't just coats of paint.

Understanding the difference between security and privacy is why I actually use Edge on Windows for some desktop tasks.

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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Then when I point out this sort of shit to explain why I insist in keeping Win7, people say I am nuts and that Win10 is fine.

Windows 7 is a fine OS if you don't connect it to the Internet, but it's basically screaming "hack me" everywhere you go online. A few occasional mild annoyances from the marketing team is worth tolerating for a reasonably secure operating system. I'd argue people who feel otherwise need to reprioritize their risks.

This is the sort of BS paranoia-propaganda that is contributing to the propagation of walled gardens and continued mass user oppression and "herding".

List the last known remote exploit that will work for someone behind a NAT, and that doesn't involve visting a malicious site with all the default settings of IE or downloading and running an executable (at which point nothing will save you but the most authoritarian of walled gardens.)

Don't forget, the new stuff is not free of attack surfaces either.

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They got slammed for anti-trust with IE and then noticed Apple got away with even worse on iOS. Now they've doubled down.

Google really started this though. And they didn’t use anti competitive advertising practices to kill IE, they used them to kill Firefox.

> Google really started this though.

I guess you must be young enough to not remember when Google didn’t exist. The anti-trust trial against Microsoft being referred to above began several months before Google was founded. The FTC inquiries into whether MS was abusing a monopoly position with IE began before Sergey Brin even started at Stanford.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Cor...

Re: Windows 10 nagging users with Bing advertisements (push alerts)

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You'd think they'd have realised by now how counterproductive these antics are. If you need to consistently plug and annoy users to force them to use your product, they'll be deterred against it even more.

Is it possible that the reason they’re still doing it is because it works, for better or worse?
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