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Trials begin on lozenge that rebuilds tooth enamel

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Re: Trials begin on lozenge that rebuilds tooth enamel

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This is cool but I really want something that can regrow my gums. I’ve had some recession and I have sensitivity to cold liquids. The dentists say the only option is surgery

Same. I’ve had two grafts in the same area (cadaver and auto) and neither of them held.

What drives me wild is I floss twice a day, brush three times a day with the daintiest grip you’ve ever seen.

Every time I go to the dentist, recession.

Meanwhile my spouse brushes once a day, maybe flosses occasionally and has never had recession or a cavity.

Re: Trials begin on lozenge that rebuilds tooth enamel

#172

Through the decades, many have claimed they solved the tooth decay problem. Nobody ever shipped a product, let alone a working one. This is the next one in the series so long I feel extremely skeptical. Even if it actually works it will probably cost some crazy money (part of which will hopefully go to a fund to support millions of jobless dentists /s). Nevertheless I'm glad this popped up here anyway.

This isn't so much a prevention of tooth decay as it is a contribution to the hydroxyapatite crystal structure in a non-regenerable part of your tooth.

Re: Trials begin on lozenge that rebuilds tooth enamel

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Haha, I was just going to say this. My 4 cup habit a day has destroyed any chance of having white teeth. They aren’t bad, but they aren’t white.

They aren't 'supposed' to be white; pure white teeth are bleached teeth, it's not natural. (I suppose truly natural is also unhealthy, but my point is perfectly healthy teeth can be - and are , without other non-health-improving intervention - less than pure white.)

Yup. Little more egg shell a little less “primer white”.

Re: Trials begin on lozenge that rebuilds tooth enamel

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> The idea for the lozenge design originated with Deniz Yucesoy, a graduate student in the UW’s Genetically Engineered Materials Science and Engineering Center who received a $100,000 Amazon Catalyst grant This grad-student/researcher just handed over a multi-million dollar business to Amazon in exchange for $100k towards the research. Why on Earth would anyone sign over 100% ownership of their idea, just to be able…

what if there’s more to an idea than how much money you personally can extract from it?

Theres more to an idea than how much a billionaire can trick you to part with it too though.

Re: Trials begin on lozenge that rebuilds tooth enamel

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> The idea for the lozenge design originated with Deniz Yucesoy, a graduate student in the UW’s Genetically Engineered Materials Science and Engineering Center who received a $100,000 Amazon Catalyst grant This grad-student/researcher just handed over a multi-million dollar business to Amazon in exchange for $100k towards the research. Why on Earth would anyone sign over 100% ownership of their idea, just to be able…

If you're an academic researcher, you probably don't care as much about the ownership of IP when compared to a potential to see your work get used and to build a reputation as a competent person in your field.

Also, the work wouldn't necessarily exist without the funding.

Re: Trials begin on lozenge that rebuilds tooth enamel

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Have you looked into botox shots at all? When I tell you my life changed completely from a 15 minute botox appointment with an oral surgeon I am not exaggerating in the least. I’d had no idea what it felt like to live without bruxism - not only were my teeth better but my neck stopped aching, my back muscles stopped spasming, and I stopped getting migraines entirely. I had gotten debilitating migraines once every mon…

to clarify, are you saying that a single treatment of botox cured you of these ailments?

Good question, no. It’s too late to edit my original comment but I went probably every two or three months for a few years. The relief was immediate and continual and the migraines, back spasms, etc. never returned but I did get maintenance injections. I don’t know how to describe it but I could kind of feel that was wearing off. Like I feel my jaw muscles getting stronger and that’s when I’d make an appointment to go back. Eventually the follow-up appointments started to spread out further and then they stopped. I still don’t chew gum, though. As soon as I chew gum I can feel those muscles wanting to bulk right back up!

It’s my understanding that Botox weakens the muscle and people who clench/grind their teeth have very strong muscles so you kind of keep going until the muscle is atrophied(?) down to a normal strength. So I would imagine the earlier you go for treatment the shorter the amount time you’d require treatment and vice versa. For more severe cases there’s actually a visible difference in your face, too. It’s too subtle for most people to notice but I can look at photos of myself and tell you whether it was before or after I started botox. When your jaw muscles are so strong it makes your face more square.

Here’s a good example of what I’m talking about: https://www.realself.com/photos/botox/botox-for-tmj#media-ph...

Re: Trials begin on lozenge that rebuilds tooth enamel

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post #165

> The idea for the lozenge design originated with Deniz Yucesoy, a graduate student in the UW’s Genetically Engineered Materials Science and Engineering Center who received a $100,000 Amazon Catalyst grant This grad-student/researcher just handed over a multi-million dollar business to Amazon in exchange for $100k towards the research. Why on Earth would anyone sign over 100% ownership of their idea, just to be able…

what if there’s more to an idea than how much money you personally can extract from it?

Yeah, how altruistic of him to hand the idea over to a group of bloodsucking capitalists that'll use it to extract as much profit from the world as possible.

Re: Trials begin on lozenge that rebuilds tooth enamel

#179

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Not really. Plaque removal has to be the #1 thing done at a dentist's office. I've had one cavity filled in the last 15 years, and the rest of the visits have been cleanings (ie. plaque removal). Plus, it really doesn't matter how well you brush and floss. There's always something for the hygienist to remove. Which, I can only assume prevents this lozenge from actually doing anything.

Perhaps in the future there will be a layer added to this pill that first dissolves the plaque.

> Perhaps in the future there will be a layer added to this pill that first dissolves the plaque.

I suspect that without a plaque removal step, these lozenges could contribute to plaque mineralization into dental calculus.

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