I think extending longevity is a negative with regard to human beings as a collective. I think it would be intelligent from a group point of view to create disincentives for individuals to live beyond a certain age.
Logan's Run was a dystopia.
Humans Could Live up to 150 Years, New Research Suggests
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Re: Humans Could Live up to 150 Years, New Research Suggests
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is dismissive of gained wisdom over time, and probably the most unapologetic generalization about a group I’ve read recently. My guess is having lots of older voters would make it so people stop falling for the same scams over and over, and are less prone to hysteria. If that were the case, governance should improve dramatically.
Have you heard the phrase “science advances one death at a time”? Older people — not all of them, there are many exceptions, but as a group — are more rigid in their thinking and less open to new ideas. Some of this is due to acquired wisdom, but it is also due to decreased ability to imagine the world any other way.
New ideas aren't always great ideas.
And to counteract it, a sufficiently long-lived humanity might actually have to deal with the consequences of their own actions. Right now, there's quite a lot of folks who are of the mindset that they'll die in ten to twenty years, so why should they care? It's a generational pass-the-buck.
Re: Humans Could Live up to 150 Years, New Research Suggests
#73Then the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” -Genesis 6:3
What's with all the bible quotes around here lately?
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#74I think extending longevity is a negative with regard to human beings as a collective. I think it would be intelligent from a group point of view to create disincentives for individuals to live beyond a certain age.
How old are you? I suspect you might feel differently when you're older.
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is having? Where? I see nothing that leads to me believe the evidence-free hype around longevity. I think it's early to say it's happening now . Eventually? Sure...maybe.
Being able to produce any protein in the body with mRNA seems like a pretty big leap.
Bio(n)tech is Godzilla.
Re: Humans Could Live up to 150 Years, New Research Suggests
#76Seems cool, not sure if I want a bunch of 150 year olds voting (relatively, that would be like people born in 1870 voting today, 5 years after slavery ended).
Not sure I want 18 year olds voting either.
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#77Seems cool, not sure if I want a bunch of 150 year olds voting (relatively, that would be like people born in 1870 voting today, 5 years after slavery ended).
I have two thoughts on this: - old people should have less voting power bacause they wont live to see the results of their votes - old people should have more voting power because they are older and have seen more of history I guess they balance out and everyone gets an equal vote.
Older people have more children and grandchildren that will live with the results of their voting.
Re: Humans Could Live up to 150 Years, New Research Suggests
#78Last weeks article was 130. Clearly take this all with a grain of salt, and realize that bioengineering is having an explosion that will redefine everything we think about medicine and the human body.
Sure, it’s just a number. The point is that if we made the effort, there’s likely easy things we can do to extend life beyond 100. Studying Blue Zones, for example https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Zone We really haven’t made an effort to study aging. Why do some people live well into their 90’s and appear to be in good health? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Van_Dyke
> We really haven’t made an effort to study aging.
We haven't? Just 2 seconds of googling "study aging" brings up results from places like Harvard, the NIH, RAND and hundreds of other universities where people study aging all day everyday.
Re: Humans Could Live up to 150 Years, New Research Suggests
#79That's why the fundamental solution to both the ageing problem and space exploration is not biological. Humans are fundamentally adapted to live/reproduce on the oxidizing and wet environment on Earth. Rather than bring out a mini Earth environ each time we go to space, we should start thinking about how we can just bring out our mind. It would be much more sustainable in the long run, maybe even on Earth itself.
We are fundamentally adapted to the African savanna. Expanding beyond that lush environment needed technology. Even flintstone and animal hides are a technology. Expanding to space needs better technology, but the first step was done when some of our ape-like ancestors bashed an antelope's skull with a rock.
The difference between African Savanna and other places on Earth is minuscule compared to the difference between Earth and Space.
Oxygen, Temperature where water is liquid or barely frozen (water is basically rock at -200), Pressurized Environment, abundance of organic material for ingestion. That's true for most of inhabited locations on Earth.
I'm not strongly attached to my meat vessel, I think my consciousness defines me, even though it currently runs off my brain.
Re: Humans Could Live up to 150 Years, New Research Suggests
#80Seems cool, not sure if I want a bunch of 150 year olds voting (relatively, that would be like people born in 1870 voting today, 5 years after slavery ended).
This is dismissive of gained wisdom over time, and probably the most unapologetic generalization about a group I’ve read recently. My guess is having lots of older voters would make it so people stop falling for the same scams over and over, and are less prone to hysteria. If that were the case, governance should improve dramatically.
> would make it so people stop falling for the same scams over and over
As evidenced by... the ever present red-scare in the US? It has been decades and people still going on with this bullshit.
It’s very easy to observe how older generations have a hard time getting rid of their zeitgeist.
This doesn’t mean they suck, because there are things that lose impact over time and older generations are the to say: listen, it was way worse then it seems, I was still a child when that atomic bomb fell and the repercussions were immense.
So I think they are valuable voters, but because they’re scam-resistant. On the contrary, they’re historically charged and can help us remember relevant stuff, but their emotionally bagged opinions are almost immutable and a vulnerability.