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One week of Libera Chat

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Re: One week of Libera Chat

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The noteworthy (IMO, obviously) communities/projects that I have seen jump ship (either voluntarily or by force) are wikimedia & wikimedia, ubuntu, gentoo, centos, kde, postgres, sourcehut, wesnoth, mutt, vim, emacs, lisp, scheme, clojure, haskell. Any other ones that I haven't seen yet?

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Re: One week of Libera Chat

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post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's an English word, you can listen to it here: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/libera

OT: That entry says it's the name of a deity. Are names "words"? And are Italian names English words? This is meant to be an honest question, I just don't know. Intuitively, I was surprised.

Everything is a word. Most words are informal, and may not effectively communicate both direct meaning and cultural implications.

Formal words can generally be found in a dictionary, and when used in those contexts, are more likely to effectively communicate direct meaning.

Re: One week of Libera Chat

#103
post #58

The identical experience of libera chat makes me realize how useful open protocols are, and how much harder it would be to do something like this with some platform like discord

I don't use Discord but apparently there was some pretty drama a couple of weeks ago because they made a bunch of changes to the UI of the client that apparently the community didn't like. If you want to have control of your platform then don't use closed source, proprietary solutions!

They just changed their logo and primary brand color slightly. Although I agree it is worse, hardly can call that "UI changes"

Re: One week of Libera Chat

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Moved to Matrix, but there are active IRC channels on Libera as well.

I thought Matrix group sizes are limited to 1024 members. I can't google if this limit still exists.

There are no hard limit on matrix room member counts. e2e encrypted rooms with thousands of users se a lot of key negotiation traffic, but with such sizes maybe full encryption doesn't buy much as any user can share the log/history.

Re: One week of Libera Chat

#105
post #65

The identical experience of libera chat makes me realize how useful open protocols are, and how much harder it would be to do something like this with some platform like discord

Not too long ago Slack supported IRC gateways, with limited features of course.

It was a good way of appeasing people who prefer IRC/XMPP and getting them to accept the walled garden.

A good trick because once slack is adopted it's very difficult to get rid of it for most companies.

Re: One week of Libera Chat

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post #71
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't use Discord but apparently there was some pretty drama a couple of weeks ago because they made a bunch of changes to the UI of the client that apparently the community didn't like. If you want to have control of your platform then don't use closed source, proprietary solutions!

While I do hate that Discord is being used for all chat needs instead of just sticking to being a replacement for Ventrilo or Skype for gaming groups, I want to point out that the drama is a massive overreaction. Discord made very minor style changes and slightly modified their logo, wordmark, and brand color scheme (with the logo being the only one of those you really end up seeing inside the application).

Yeah, I did not like the change but it was a tiny change so I agree with that it was an overreaction.

Re: One week of Libera Chat

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post #71
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't use Discord but apparently there was some pretty drama a couple of weeks ago because they made a bunch of changes to the UI of the client that apparently the community didn't like. If you want to have control of your platform then don't use closed source, proprietary solutions!

While I do hate that Discord is being used for all chat needs instead of just sticking to being a replacement for Ventrilo or Skype for gaming groups, I want to point out that the drama is a massive overreaction. Discord made very minor style changes and slightly modified their logo, wordmark, and brand color scheme (with the logo being the only one of those you really end up seeing inside the application).

I thought they seemed like trivial changes as well, although not being a user myself I couldn't really form an opinion.

Still, it should serve as a wakeup call that the users really aren't in charge and that it can potentially suck. It's a taste of things to come whenever Discord decides to more aggressively monetize themselves for instance.

But apparently the conclusion was more that they should insult the devs on twitter and reddit instead.

Re: One week of Libera Chat

#109
post #6

The noteworthy (IMO, obviously) communities/projects that I have seen jump ship (either voluntarily or by force) are wikimedia & wikimedia, ubuntu, gentoo, centos, kde, postgres, sourcehut, wesnoth, mutt, vim, emacs, lisp, scheme, clojure, haskell. Any other ones that I haven't seen yet?

It might be easier to start a list of channels that didn't move.
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