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An Asian Uber Driver Was Attacked by a Mob. Then YouTube Took Down His Video

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For those of us outside of the US, can someone explain the background of what's happening? Is there a group using covid or conflict with the CCP to incite violence against Asians? Or is this just the relentless churn of everyday pointless hideous violence that has been previously un-noted in a media when the victims were asian?

I will get downvoted and flagged for sharing this context, but here it is anyways Silicon Valley is predominated by and attracts people who are left leaning. This ideology carries with it a narrative that there is an oppressed group and a oppressing group. In America, the form this narrative takes is that non-whites are oppressed by white supremacy. There is a notion that Asians are a “model minority” who fare better…

I say “notion” for Asian being model minorities is because it depends on how you define success.

Asians have, on average, higher incomes than other groups in the US including whites. Asians are overrepresented in tech. However, when you look at senior and executive positions, Asians are underrepresented. This is known as the bamboo ceiling. Tech companies while left leaning is still predominantly white in management positions. Since the Trump era, the American right is often accused of supporting or being white supremacists. Additionally, to suggest Asians are victims is equivalent is equivalent to being a white supremacist (hence the movement is coined Stop Hate Asian rather than Stop Asian Racism, because the left believes Asians cannot be the victims of racism ). Like “minority”, the word “supremacy” is selective. The Trump base is lead by poor rural whites who hold little economic power. Meanwhile, their Silicon Valley counterpart is highly educated and affluent. Again, whites are at the top. As we know, tech has huge influence of media and access to information, and so ironically, tech companies are quite possibly the White supremacists. As an example of this irony in white liberals, there were documented examples of a white Black Lives Matter protester yelling in the face of a black police office telling them they were the racist ones.

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Can you please point to some of the recent attacks that you think were perpetrated by Trump supporters? I wasn't aware he had a large base in Oakland.

Several attacks on asians in the last couple of months in New York suggest that there is a problem related to Trump followers, fans, whatever you want to call them. Several were caught that’s why I drew this conclusion. If you remember Trump stirred a lot of hate in this country and while these sentiments didn’t start with Trump, he certainly brought them to the surface.

can you provide at least anecdotal examples of attacks committed by trump supporters?

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The title doesn't specify the perpetrator is white and doesn't mention white supremacy. It can only mean one thing, the elephant in the room, black-on-asian violence. If someone saw the video, can you please confirm my hunch?

Does black-on-asian violence have some kind of special status in comparison to black-on-any-other-skin-color violence?

After being confronted with footage on the issue I was also surprised to not see white Karens and Karls being the perpetrators but black folks.

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The title doesn't specify the perpetrator is white and doesn't mention white supremacy. It can only mean one thing, the elephant in the room, black-on-asian violence. If someone saw the video, can you please confirm my hunch?

> It can only mean one thing, the elephant in the room, black-on-asian violence Is there anywhere I can read about this elephant in the room? I'm not sure why the label is important here; is the implication that black people are ideologically motivated to attack Asians? Are you sure this was a hate crime (the driver was attacked because was Asian) or a crime of oppurtunity (the driver was attacked because he was an e…

The problem is that the BLM movement is unnecessarily built on an idealized view of black people. This is neither useful nor essential but many people (many of them white) feel better and more entitled with this idealized narrative. It's also a taboo to mention that it's not just white corporations f'ing over African people but that they are actually doing business with local criminals and those are the ones actually f'ing over their peers. Same thing with slavery. Which was totally accepted in Africa and partially still is. Black people sold other black people to white people.

It seems to me that the RAM available to many people is too small to fit in a complexer perspective. That's why public discussions seem to stabilize with time on some dumbed down equilibrium that can be expressed in maximum three barely grammatically complete sentences.

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Because most people who use that rhetoric will always imply the disparity exists because of genetic disposition rather than a social one. The logic tree goes from "black people commit a lot of violent crime" to "black people are dangerous" (then from there to other various racist tropes), while ignoring the mountain of other socioeconmic issues. Consider this, if I told you Koreans only make 1% of Japan but they make…

You make a very good point. Regarding the Korean example, I’d conclude that Koreans are more likely to get involved in organized crime in Japan because of structural factors of Japanese society and economy.

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No, it's not acceptable to stereotype all men and it never has been.

It's always been acceptable in ways that would never pass if men were replaced by "black people". What else is #MeToo doing, if not a form of stereotyping? Why are men constantly mentioned and blamed? Why is it ok to say that there is a problem only affecting women caused by men? It's not even close to as evidence based as the problems with black people committing crime. I'm not blaming all black people for violent c…

No, men are not constantly mentioned and blamed. Abusers are constantly mentioned and blamed. And it's very good so, except for the abusers of course.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does black-on-asian violence have some kind of special status in comparison to black-on-any-other-skin-color violence?

No, but Asian people have been on the receiving end of hate crimes more recently

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#148

For those of us outside of the US, can someone explain the background of what's happening? Is there a group using covid or conflict with the CCP to incite violence against Asians? Or is this just the relentless churn of everyday pointless hideous violence that has been previously un-noted in a media when the victims were asian?

I will get downvoted and flagged for sharing this context, but here it is anyways Silicon Valley is predominated by and attracts people who are left leaning. This ideology carries with it a narrative that there is an oppressed group and a oppressing group. In America, the form this narrative takes is that non-whites are oppressed by white supremacy. There is a notion that Asians are a “model minority” who fare better…

I lived in Australia during the years of media panic about Asian immigration, in the one of the areas with the greatest immigration from Asia. No one around me was panicking, our previously dull working class suburb was enriched and invigorated by the influx of new people. The hysteria came from people who didn't know immigrants personally but were perceiving immigration via the media, the nefarious hordes they feared didn't exist, they were a nightmare whipped into existence by lazy reporting that optimises for maximum sensation from minimum effort that amplified the opinions of cranks.

Could something similar be happening in the US now? I believe that people universally care about their material conditions of their lives, about being treated with respect, and about the future for their children, but when these concerns are presented in the media it is the shrill and sensational voices that are amplified. No-one gets to see their perspectives communicated in way that resembles the true beliefs and everyone else seems trivial, idiotic and dangerous.

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#150

Immature AI making bad decisions: check Google being hard to get on the phone: check Where is the bingo sheet

Google was reached. They made a human conclusion that the video was a violation for displaying gore or enticing violence.

Also, here is the video in question.

https://twitter.com/vincentkangnow/status/139344934049724416...

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