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An Asian Uber Driver Was Attacked by a Mob. Then YouTube Took Down His Video

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Does black-on-asian violence have some kind of special status in comparison to black-on-any-other-skin-color violence?

Sure, let me try to explain. 1. Just like Asians have been the "model minority," Blacks are treated as the opposite. There's a lot of resentment going one way, and a lot of "what did you hit me for?" going the other way. 2. There's a lot of Asians (especially those from overseas) who don't understand the historical context, and aren't privy to empathy or compassion when they're being targeted. This dynamic isn't some…

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Why mention men at all in the "MeToo" movement? Why aren't we allowed to mention black people committing more crime? Stereotyping men and some races is perfectly acceptable, stereotyping blacks is not. It's pathetic that people flag comments instead of giving any reasonable response.

No, it's not acceptable to stereotype all men and it never has been.

It's always been acceptable in ways that would never pass if men were replaced by "black people".

What else is #MeToo doing, if not a form of stereotyping? Why are men constantly mentioned and blamed? Why is it ok to say that there is a problem only affecting women caused by men? It's not even close to as evidence based as the problems with black people committing crime.

I'm not blaming all black people for violent crimes from their community, but they have a serious issue and I don't see why it doesn't deserve to be called out in the exact same way.

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It is critically important in a political climate where one side is using the spectre of white supremacy as a political cudgel. When a complicit media makes a consistent effort to paint a false picture. This censorship is not an isolated incident. News articles regularly leave out the perpetrator's race unless it's white. Reddit regularly deletes and locks threads on inconvenient articles/videos such as this, includi…

Thank goodness we have... Fox News? Newsmax? OAN? Breitbart? to give us the real scoop. The company you keep and all that.

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The title doesn't specify the perpetrator is white and doesn't mention white supremacy. It can only mean one thing, the elephant in the room, black-on-asian violence. If someone saw the video, can you please confirm my hunch?

I so wish American people learn a little history. Seeking narrative instead of truth always led to deceit, fiefdom, and atrocity.

Do you have any specific relevant recommended history reads? I'm on a history bender and would welcome suggestions.

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For those of us outside of the US, can someone explain the background of what's happening? Is there a group using covid or conflict with the CCP to incite violence against Asians? Or is this just the relentless churn of everyday pointless hideous violence that has been previously un-noted in a media when the victims were asian?

I will get downvoted and flagged for sharing this context, but here it is anyways

Silicon Valley is predominated by and attracts people who are left leaning. This ideology carries with it a narrative that there is an oppressed group and a oppressing group. In America, the form this narrative takes is that non-whites are oppressed by white supremacy.

There is a notion that Asians are a “model minority” who fare better socioeconomically than even the white majority which is inconvenient to this narrative.

People on the right believes this shows white supremacy does not exist. People on the left thinks the notion of a model minority is a divide and conquer tactic to advance white supremacy. The left ironically still believes the Asian Model Minority is real, because it’s initiatives for equity usually does not extend to Asian people. To be more concrete, tech companies will have initiatives to hire more ethnic minorities, however Asians are usually precluded.

Reporting White on Asian violence fits in with the White Supremacy narrative.

Reporting Asians are victims to other ethnic groups would not advance the agenda that the oppressed group is worth helping.

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Back in 2016, wasn’t “Meet the Flockers” identified as encouraging black on asian violence? Isn’t Youtube still hosting it?

Not officially, but the song has finally been pulled from various platforms as recent as 2 months ago. The YG concert in Oakland a few years back actually had lots of Asian people there. As an Asian, I don’t want to excuse the song. It was just made in bad taste, before everyone became so sensitive. What irks me is not the song itself or YG, I like his music, but the double standard and hypocrisy of people applying c…

Social ostracizing is a tool, so I doubt cancel will go away.

You’ve noted that cancel culture is rather one-side: I feel Asians tend to be fairly moderate, in which case there is plenty to dislike whether looking into Democrat and Republican.

So here’s the thing: Asians including East Asians need to become far more involved in politics, rather than simply taking cues from MAGA, BLM, or other self-serving interests.

If Asians are a small minority, consider also that both sides are eager to court Asians for the moral high-ground.

tl;dr; Asian Americans may be the moderating voice that the US needs.

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#138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does black-on-asian violence have some kind of special status in comparison to black-on-any-other-skin-color violence?

Sure, let me try to explain. 1. Just like Asians have been the "model minority," Blacks are treated as the opposite. There's a lot of resentment going one way, and a lot of "what did you hit me for?" going the other way. 2. There's a lot of Asians (especially those from overseas) who don't understand the historical context, and aren't privy to empathy or compassion when they're being targeted. This dynamic isn't some…

It's also possible that during the LA race riots, since asians (esp Korean) were left to fend for themselves against mobs, this has led to an inheritance of racially negative stories.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots

I would also note that many discussions about American racial injustice, particularly in the education system, treats asians as if they are barely worth discussing. Only the GOP seemed to have been interested in picking up the issue, and only very little in an opportunistic way.

https://equitablemath.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/11...

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Absolutely, especially post Covid I've seen several senseless random attacks on Asians regardless of nationality or origins. I hope it's just a passing thing which was fueled by Trump. I feel for them. I feel for all folks whose mere look renders them targets for hate crimes. I really thought we put that behind but recently, during the past 5 years I realized how wrong I was.

Can you please point to some of the recent attacks that you think were perpetrated by Trump supporters? I wasn't aware he had a large base in Oakland.

Several attacks on asians in the last couple of months in New York suggest that there is a problem related to Trump followers, fans, whatever you want to call them. Several were caught that’s why I drew this conclusion. If you remember Trump stirred a lot of hate in this country and while these sentiments didn’t start with Trump, he certainly brought them to the surface.

Re: An Asian Uber Driver Was Attacked by a Mob. Then YouTube Took Down His Video

#140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is critically important in a political climate where one side is using the spectre of white supremacy as a political cudgel. When a complicit media makes a consistent effort to paint a false picture. This censorship is not an isolated incident. News articles regularly leave out the perpetrator's race unless it's white. Reddit regularly deletes and locks threads on inconvenient articles/videos such as this, includi…

Thank goodness we have... Fox News? Newsmax? OAN? Breitbart? to give us the real scoop. The company you keep and all that.

If fox, newsmax, and OAN are the only ones willing to report on certain topics earnestly, like, say patterns in black on asian violence, or other ethnically sensitive issues, then yes, their voices are critical to a functioning democracy. The way that news, entertainment, social, and "fact checking" media all effectively collude to discredit these sources for political leaning is dangerous, and in effect disenfranchises about 50% of the populace who do not lean left, in the online public sphere. This is an unstable configuration. Dismissal of these sources conflates political bias with unreliability. It's disingenuous, especially when outlets biased to the same degree but in the other direction are de facto approved on Wikipedia, reddit, stackexchange, Twitter, etc.

You notice the growing hyperpolarization in this country? This is one of the main contributors. The left has monopolized public discourse and implicitly and increasingly colludes to keep right leaning sources discredited and silenced. YouTube's removal of the video in the OP is one of many examples which consistently align with the sort of progressive policies that are now sweeping the corporate sphere - and rural Americans are losing their voice, while being slandered as ignorant bigots. Go to the talk page for any remotely political article and you'll see a minority of right leaning editors consistently bullied and their sources outright disregarded. That's on top of the chilling effect which this consistent behavior has on the expression of what have become politically taboo opinions. It's an unspoken, incestuous club, and denying this pervasive bias is gaslighting.

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