To add to the pot of cynics I wonder how much of it is driven to supplant Linux's "viral" GPL-ness
Google open source engagement was already "throw over the wall" style before this. I assume things will only get worse now.
Fuchsia, like Chrome, has been open-source for years, and all commits and reviews as well as the bug tracker are public. It is a very different model from how Android releases work.
I came here for a technical discussion about Fuchsia and it's microkernel approach instead this is mostly fill with complains about Google as a company.
Is there a social justice forum I can visit where I may be able to have a technical discussion about Fuchsia?
Its so weird how fast history is forgotten. Gmail was a galactic leap forward in terms of mail clients. At school there was a grey market to sell gmail invites at 20 dollars per
It really is. Things get comfortable and people assume that's always how it was. Like cell phones. Wow, over a decade of them and if you had one 15 years ago you were considered a early adapter, and 20 years ago you were way ahead the curve. If you had one in the 90's, wow. Still, mobile computer in your pocket, wow.
That’s true. But unfortunately all that baggage comes with lots of genuinely useful stuff too. Starting from scratch rarely works, unless you’re willing to put in a lot of time and effort, and are in it for the long haul, and people that want to start from scratch rarely are, and google doesn’t have a good track record in these matters either.
They have an OS running on a consumer device that connects to the wifi where you can play media, browse the web, and run flutter apps, so it seems like they already put the time and effort. It even self-updates, so in some sense it's already ahead of the standard linux distributions!
Which standard distribution are you running that doesn't self-update? All of the ones I use (Fedora, Centos, Debian, Ubuntu, Qubes) do this and have done for years.
Google open source engagement was already "throw over the wall" style before this. I assume things will only get worse now.
Fuchsia, like Chrome, has been open-source for years, and all commits and reviews as well as the bug tracker are public. It is a very different model from how Android releases work. (Disclaimer: I work on Fuchsia at Google.)
Good thing trusty google never changes direction or policies and that fuschia is copyleft, so it can never be closed in the future.
I think you are wrong that Gmail was revolutionary. It was a good service, but nothing special in my opinion. But yes, the license would allow Google to close the system down whenever they want. Still curious to know how Fuchsia would be a better choice for a system. Nest seems to be powered by Fuchsia...
Its so weird how fast history is forgotten. Gmail was a galactic leap forward in terms of mail clients. At school there was a grey market to sell gmail invites at 20 dollars per
> Gmail was a galactic leap forward in terms of mail clients
Only in terms of storage and 'hive mind' spam detection. The UI was pretty shitty, and not much better than Hotmail.
Google open source engagement was already "throw over the wall" style before this. I assume things will only get worse now.
Fuchsia, like Chrome, has been open-source for years, and all commits and reviews as well as the bug tracker are public. It is a very different model from how Android releases work. (Disclaimer: I work on Fuchsia at Google.)
The fact it's more permissive with its license already does not bode well. Just like with Chrome, there could be a myriad of forks that can be closed source themselves and so without easy means to peek inside what they're really doing, and although many distributors did the bare minimum with Android due to its Linux kernel's license, there was something.
I came here for a technical discussion about Fuchsia and it's microkernel approach instead this is mostly fill with complains about Google as a company. Is there a social justice forum I can visit where I may be able to have a technical discussion about Fuchsia?
For what it's worth, a few Google engineers are hanging around so if you have any specific technical question I think we'd be glad to answer it :-)
Its so weird how fast history is forgotten. Gmail was a galactic leap forward in terms of mail clients. At school there was a grey market to sell gmail invites at 20 dollars per
> Gmail was a galactic leap forward in terms of mail clients Only in terms of storage and 'hive mind' spam detection. The UI was pretty shitty, and not much better than Hotmail.
That’s like saying the automobile was only ahead in terms of propulsion, the UI was pretty shitty and not much better than a horse.