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EU bans Belarusian airlines from European skies

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Re: EU bans Belarusian airlines from European skies

#32
post #20

Why is there no one talking about some sort of military response like literally building a base at the bielorussian border with fighter planes that would prevent such equally military actions like that.

How would a military escalation help in a conflict in which Russia is involved? Besides that, I doubt that there would be any public support for this in European countries that are not direct neighbours.

Re: EU bans Belarusian airlines from European skies

#33
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not entirely sure belavia is even profitable in the first place

Hopefully now it will deteriorate even more.

They just lost roughly ⅓ of their destinations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Belavia_destinations

Re: EU bans Belarusian airlines from European skies

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All bark no bite. Assuming they got help from Russia, the gas pipeline (Nord Stream 2) is still going as planned. Germany must be sweating right now, how to look like as if they are actually committed to any sanctions, but in reality to not compromise their little joint project with Russia.

Re: EU bans Belarusian airlines from European skies

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

EU planes can still fly there and back to the EU.

>> At a meeting in Brussels, the leaders of the 27 member states also told EU airlines not to fly over Belarus, and promised further economic sanctions.

They told them to, but airlines are free to do whatever they want.

Re: EU bans Belarusian airlines from European skies

#37

This is not exact, the EU ban decision is not taken yet. see link here: https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2021... "- calls on the Council to adopt the necessary measures to ban overflight of EU airspace by Belarusian airlines and prevent access to EU airports of flights operated by such airlines;" decision has still to be made by the council, and then - to my understanding - implemented by all m…

Thanks, thanks for revealing that I should trust journalism even less than I thought.

I now noticed that

> The EU has decided to ban Belarusian airlines from European skies

has "decided" not "implemented" or "started", so technically it is matching reality, even if misleading.

Re: EU bans Belarusian airlines from European skies

#38

I wasn't sure how big Belarusian airlines was, but their summer 2021 timetable shows a number of flights to Europe: https://en.belavia.by/webroot/delivery/files/TimeTable_en_s2... They appear to have 30 planes split between Boeing and Embraer: https://en.belavia.by/company/air_fleet/

According to their website they're already cancelling flights and apparently their customer support is overloaded with calls right now.

So there's that.

Re: EU bans Belarusian airlines from European skies

#39
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For start, it has some real - though minimal - impact, unlike typical strongly worded letters.

I'd say banning Belorusian airlines after Belorus hijacked a plane (and kidnapped passengers) is like having your kid kidnapped and proclaiming that the kidnapper isn't welcome in your house. Edit: s/Belorussian/Belorusian

Not really, because here the hijacker is not one-dimensional, the EU still has options to meaningufully retaliate. Really meaningful retaliation however would also hit Russia as this thing was orchestrated by them, by for example finally stopping Nordstream.

Re: EU bans Belarusian airlines from European skies

#40
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For start, it has some real - though minimal - impact, unlike typical strongly worded letters.

I'd say banning Belorusian airlines after Belorus hijacked a plane (and kidnapped passengers) is like having your kid kidnapped and proclaiming that the kidnapper isn't welcome in your house. Edit: s/Belorussian/Belorusian

They also sanctioned involved individuals. It's more like a family kidnaps their own kid while he was at your birthday party, and as response you get a restraining order and freeze some of their bank accounts.
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