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EU bans Belarusian airlines from European skies

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Re: EU bans Belarusian airlines from European skies

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) I am not supporting also this one, especially as it was a sad case of vassalisation 2) Refusing to allow use of airspace is different from hijacking plane and abducting people. If someone is using "state piracy" only for the second one it is entirely defensible. EDIT: 3) at least in this case I can say that my country (Poland) was not complicit, though probably mostly because they were not asked by USA to do so. 4…

> 1) I am not supporting also this one, especially as it was a sad case of vassalisation Don't get me wrong I agree. > 2) Refusing to allow use of airspace is different from hijacking plane and abducting people. If someone is using "state piracy" only for the second one it is entirely defensible. Not much different the plane was forced to land in Austria. Also this was a diplomatic mission, unlike commercial flights…

Plane was not forced to land, but landed due to technical malfunction

> pilots requested emergency landing due to issues with fuel level indicators and thus inability to confirm sufficient amount of fuel to continue flight

Though problem was triggered by France, Italy, Spain and Portugal refused to allow transit.

There is difference between hijacking plane using fighter jet and refusal to allow transit. Both with blatant lies as a pretext.

Re: EU bans Belarusian airlines from European skies

#23
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For start, it has some real - though minimal - impact, unlike typical strongly worded letters.

I'd say banning Belorusian airlines after Belorus hijacked a plane (and kidnapped passengers) is like having your kid kidnapped and proclaiming that the kidnapper isn't welcome in your house. Edit: s/Belorussian/Belorusian

Friendly sidenote: people from the country of "Belarus" call themselves "Belarusians" (pronounced like "bela-roo-sians", not like "bela-russians" / "belo-russians").

Re: EU bans Belarusian airlines from European skies

#24
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Why is there no one talking about some sort of military response like literally building a base at the bielorussian border with fighter planes that would prevent such equally military actions like that.

BelaRUS

Russia has military zone (Kaliningrad) close to Poland and Lithuania, escalating military conflict with Belarus will make Russia to respond.

Re: EU bans Belarusian airlines from European skies

#25
post #20

Why is there no one talking about some sort of military response like literally building a base at the bielorussian border with fighter planes that would prevent such equally military actions like that.

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There are NATO bases all over the world including the Belorussian border.

Re: EU bans Belarusian airlines from European skies

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This is not exact, the EU ban decision is not taken yet. see link here: https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2021...

    "- calls on the Council to adopt the necessary measures to ban overflight of EU airspace by Belarusian airlines and prevent access to EU airports of flights operated by such airlines;"
decision has still to be made by the council, and then - to my understanding - implemented by all member states one by one. It's a typical example of media interpretation of facts.

See here https://en.belavia.by/news/4674378/ -> Belavia confirms UK and FR banned, but it was their decision.

Re: EU bans Belarusian airlines from European skies

#27
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For start, it has some real - though minimal - impact, unlike typical strongly worded letters.

I'd say banning Belorusian airlines after Belorus hijacked a plane (and kidnapped passengers) is like having your kid kidnapped and proclaiming that the kidnapper isn't welcome in your house. Edit: s/Belorussian/Belorusian

Still, better that welcoming kidnapper and his family for the birthday of younger sister.

And I expected such behavior, so I am pleasantly surprised.

Re: EU bans Belarusian airlines from European skies

#28
post #9

Nice that something more than strongly worded letters was done.

You mean the European hypocrisy when they call out "state piracy"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evo_Morales_grounding_incident

We live in the American world. Deal with it.

Re: EU bans Belarusian airlines from European skies

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For start, it has some real - though minimal - impact, unlike typical strongly worded letters.

I'd say banning Belorusian airlines after Belorus hijacked a plane (and kidnapped passengers) is like having your kid kidnapped and proclaiming that the kidnapper isn't welcome in your house. Edit: s/Belorussian/Belorusian

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Re: EU bans Belarusian airlines from European skies

#30
post #20

Why is there no one talking about some sort of military response like literally building a base at the bielorussian border with fighter planes that would prevent such equally military actions like that.

Spend billions building a base to do what? Invade Belarussian airspace (an act of war) to guard the passenger plane if this incident happens again?
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