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The Capacitive Button Cult Must Be Stopped

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Re: The Capacitive Button Cult Must Be Stopped

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post #26

My guess is capacitive buttons have a lower failure rate than physical buttons. It's probably a decision born of cost.

Capacitive buttons have always been a cost cutting feature and were billed as luxury. They can NOT suck, but the firmware has to be highly tuned.

Re: The Capacitive Button Cult Must Be Stopped

#52

Another issue people don't bring up: the weather. Living in Seattle I frequently wore mittens. With the physical buttons it would not be a problem to operate the phone, with the touchscreen there is this long ordeal of pulling off the mitten to answer the phone. If it is raining (or rather, when is it not raining?), the rain will mess with the touchscreen, making it sometimes impossible to answer a call. You might sa…

Who answers their phone in the rain with the face up? Isn't that a little ridiculous? I think every piece of technology has its limitations. I could argue that button phones are loud, and I can't text with them during class or meetings. If you answer your button phone while it's raining, the rain will likely also screw up your button-phone... probably with more permanent damage than touch-screens. Also, a lot of touc…

"Who answers their phone in the rain with the face up?"

People who have never managed to figure out whether it's a single click, long click, double-click, or whatever else on the headphone button to answer the phone.

People who have never figured the above out because they have a couple different sets of headphones that have made different choices from the above options.

People who don't habitually wander around with headphones on.

People who have already taken it out of their pocket to see who's calling.

Re: The Capacitive Button Cult Must Be Stopped

#53
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Its the very reason I never got an iphone, opting for blackberry instead. That makes no sense. The iPhone does not have any capacitive button. It has 3 (or 4 depending on the way you count the volume rocker) physical buttons and a capacitive touch screen . And no, it's not the same.

When the touch screen is used as a replacement for physical buttons - to answer or ignore a call, for example then using the screen is roughly equivalent to having a capacitive button for the same function.

Only very, very roughly. The issue is dedicated capacitive buttons. On-screen buttons can give visual feedback, and are only present when they are contextually appropriate. Capacitive buttons are dedicated spots on the hardware that are always present no matter what you are using your device for at the moment.

Re: The Capacitive Button Cult Must Be Stopped

#54
post #9

I remember when I bought an LG Chocolate when it first came on the scene about 5 years ago. It had capacitive touch buttons that were in such a bad place that if I was talking, and the button brushed against my ear it would hangup the call. It was awful and I vowed never again. Its the very reason I never got an iphone, opting for blackberry instead.

Wait, I don't understand this argument. iPhones are one of the few phones that don't have this issue.

They totally have this issue. Wash your hands and get them 98% dry, try to use phone. Be frustrated.

Re: The Capacitive Button Cult Must Be Stopped

#55
post #5

The author mentions his experience with capacitive buttons that are too sensitive. I have the opposite problem on my phone—the buttons aren't sensitive enough. I think that capacitive buttons are just too difficult to tune because the conditions they are used in vary so much. My phone doesn't even register touches at all if my hands are slightly sweaty.

Not to mention that your tusks dont register at all.

Re: The Capacitive Button Cult Must Be Stopped

#56
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When the touch screen is used as a replacement for physical buttons - to answer or ignore a call, for example then using the screen is roughly equivalent to having a capacitive button for the same function.

Only very, very roughly. The issue is dedicated capacitive buttons. On-screen buttons can give visual feedback, and are only present when they are contextually appropriate. Capacitive buttons are dedicated spots on the hardware that are always present no matter what you are using your device for at the moment.

Yes, it's an important distinction. Still, there are valid reasons for preferring physical buttons that virtual buttons or other on-screen controls do not address.

Re: The Capacitive Button Cult Must Be Stopped

#57

Another issue people don't bring up: the weather. Living in Seattle I frequently wore mittens. With the physical buttons it would not be a problem to operate the phone, with the touchscreen there is this long ordeal of pulling off the mitten to answer the phone. If it is raining (or rather, when is it not raining?), the rain will mess with the touchscreen, making it sometimes impossible to answer a call. You might sa…

I've been thinking about getting some of these (http://WWW.THUMBDOGS.COM/) to deal with my phone while I'm on my motorcycle. There are also solutions based on sewing conductive thread through the ends of the gloves.

I have no idea how well they would work for the evil called capavitive buttons. I am consistently fighting with every electronic item I own that has those damnable things. I guess my fingertips just don't hold a charge.

Re: The Capacitive Button Cult Must Be Stopped

#58
post #13

I don't agree with his comment about the stove - Sure it's more fiddly than a real button or dial, but the ease of cleaning more than makes up for it IMHO.

Back in the good old days, the old-school knobs weren't made of crappy plastic and were easy to remove and clean.

Re: The Capacitive Button Cult Must Be Stopped

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who answers their phone in the rain with the face up? Isn't that a little ridiculous? I think every piece of technology has its limitations. I could argue that button phones are loud, and I can't text with them during class or meetings. If you answer your button phone while it's raining, the rain will likely also screw up your button-phone... probably with more permanent damage than touch-screens. Also, a lot of touc…

"Who answers their phone in the rain with the face up?" People who have never managed to figure out whether it's a single click, long click, double-click, or whatever else on the headphone button to answer the phone. People who have never figured the above out because they have a couple different sets of headphones that have made different choices from the above options. People who don't habitually wander around with…

I honestly feel that as an intelligent human being, our first response to meeting an inconvinence problem should be to think of a solution, rather than complain. All the things I've mentioned are by no means difficult to think of, or implement. iPhone comes with buttoned headphones. Thin Leather gloves serve other purposes and are decently cheap. To me, this sounds like: "I've opted to close my eyes, and I can't see my monitor! Design flaw!" rather than just opening my eyes.

Re: The Capacitive Button Cult Must Be Stopped

#60

Those buttons hit their maximum disaster level when installed on an induction stove. You know, the ones that are one flat shiny panel with areas that magically turn red and hot at the push of a button? Of course, said buttons are always next to impossible to press correctly (except by accident), so the standard use case is to mash your finger onto it until some form of feedback occurs. More often than not, that feedb…

On the other hand, on my oven they work great. No worries about grease or flour on your hands to setup a temperature or timer. It all wipes off later.

Just to be clear, I think that the article is about touch-sensitive buttons that provide no feedback — not about the more-common kitchen appliance buttons which live behind a plastic sheet but actually click when you push them.
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