https://twitter.com/TadeuszGiczan/status/1396868542654566402
Sounds like he is in the hospital with "heart problems" now...
Ryanair’s statement on diversion to Minsk Airport
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#102Did not a similar incident happen when a plane from Bolivia was forced to land in Austria after possible orders by the US in a search for Ed Snowden?
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Yes, Snowden's treatment is appalling. What does it have to do with this case?
> Yes, Snowden's treatment is appalling. What does it have to do with this case? Really ? Dead, deep in you heart, ask yourself what the USA would have done if Snowdon or Assange were on a Mexican flight over the continental USA to Canada.
Human rights violations are human rights violations, regardless of who commits them. In the Russian space, they occur daily, in the West they are rarer. What is the point?
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, Snowden's treatment is appalling. What does it have to do with this case?
> Yes, Snowden's treatment is appalling. What does it have to do with this case? Really ? Dead, deep in you heart, ask yourself what the USA would have done if Snowdon or Assange were on a Mexican flight over the continental USA to Canada.
I think any reasonable person understands that international politics are inherently driven by national interests and thus are hypocritical by default, because often there are no perfect solutions that are acceptable to everyone. Least you can do is to call hypocrisy out when it happens, and ask yourself whether it was at least done in your interest as a citizen or not. If you want to compare political systems, do it systematically, not on case-by-case basis. Russia had jailed many more political activists and has far more draconian laws against freedom of speech and freedom of assembly than Western countries, even if Western countries sometimes unjustifiably limit these freedoms as well.
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When did this go into effect? Years back we tried to land twice due to fog then had to wait overnight with no accomodations to take the bus zero compensation. Still won't fly Southwest because they merged with the offender.
Weather cancellations/delays don't count as denied boarding. These rules apply only if you're bumped due to overbooking.
I was more talking about the overnight delay with no food or accommodations after the 2 failed trips in.
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Weather cancellations/delays don't count as denied boarding. These rules apply only if you're bumped due to overbooking.
I was more talking about the overnight delay with no food or accommodations after the 2 failed trips in.
Yeah, they have government regulations for that in Europe, but not in the US.
"There are no federal laws requiring airlines to provide passengers with money or other compensation when their flights are delayed"
https://www.transportation.gov/individuals/aviation-consumer...
The only regulations for delays in the US that helps passengers is some specifics about not stranding you in the aircraft/tarmac for more than 3 hours (domestic flights) or 4 hours (international flights).
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I live in Faro and when I have to fly, I drive to Malaga and fly from there. But yeah, that is not to Porto but international. Never flew inside PT (inside spain, I do fly malaga Madrid with air nostrum ).
I used to live before near Malaga, but they didn't at the time (I think now they do) Malaga->Porto direct flights. it was a shame
when I lived in Granada, to travel to Madrid was either 6-7 hours by slow train, or 1 hr by bus to Malaga then 2.5 hrs by fast train, or... 5 hours by first class bus service directly from Granada. The first class bus included food and what seemed to be unlimited beer and wine for like 30 euro. No comparison. This is my favorite option for point to point travel in Iberia if there is no fast train nearby.
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#108Course not, that would annoy Belarus, which might lead to Ryanair losing profit
Well two MiG-29 was actually "escorting" the plane to Minsk and there was KGB agents on board. I don't think crew had much to say. This was pure aircraft hijacking backed up by country (or two).
Sure, but once the plane had left Minsk and enterred friendly airspace there's no reason for Ryanair to not mention their missing passengers, other than risk finanicial reprisals (ryanair banned from overflying belarus)
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Because you'll often be faced with a 500 euro+ fare for a short flight on the national airlines, with either one of WizzAir/RyanAir offering the same flight for 20-80 euro. 9/10 times the service is near-identical to a flagship. 1/10 times, the sub-par exception handling reveals itself. That's a trade-off I make regularly to save 400 euros.
They are cheaper until their not. Family booked a flight to Colorado from Georgia one winter to go skiing. Spirit let us know an hour before the flight that out flight was overbooked and offered us another flight....4 days later. We ended up coughing up an extra $1200 to fly Delta and Spirit never refunded us because "we could have taken the flight we offered". Last time I ever flew with a budget air carrier. Now I f…
The situation in the US with budget airlines is not comparable to Europe. Europe has very strong consumer protections.
From just a small percentage of cancelled Ryanair/WizzAir flights I am actually not far from all-together free flying after they paid out the compensation.
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Well, EU skies are no longer safe. If a journalist can be picked up, anyone can be. Ryann air is at fault, pilot really is - he could have kept his course. It would be a game of chicken and risky. So hard to say what is right wrong here. Most importantly, its the fact that EU is weak and Belarus did the math and concluded they would get away with it. Simple As that.
>Ryann air is at fault, pilot really is - he could have kept his course. It boggles my mind that anyone would think like this.
Yeah all the know-alot armchair HN sheep heard echo chamber echoes “pilot had no choice”.
There is always a choice, and the latest information (3 days later) show he had more of a choice than previously disclosed.