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Re: Show HN: CRM for Your Job Search

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Post by mavsman »

pbmango wrote: post #32
alexjplant wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. I had a Trello board specifically for this purpose. If you're selective about the job you want then you have to cast your net far and wide until you find The One. Recruiters will ghost you, low salary bands will be withheld until the second or third call, you won't find out about team drama until one interviewer talks trash about another that you spoke to earlier, a remote job will magically turn into an on-site…

Hi Alex. Thank you for sharing and congrats on finding a great role. I think you are spot on. For many there will always be the option of jumping in a "track" career or taking the first opportunity that comes their way. For the rest, like yourself, there are so many great companies in need of great people out there that it can be worth taking the time to be strategic and thoughtful. With the ease at which you can sea…

I also use a Trello board for this and I’ve known that there is a market for this. I’ve been thinking of switching to Notion to try that out as my solution.

That said, as I have been considering building something like this, I’ve imagined that it could provide some of the value that Glassdoor and Levels.fyi both provide.

In my Trello board I take notes about the salary bands of each position, what questions are asked in each interview, and also how I’m feeling about each. If this information is handled properly, you can collect it and (perhaps for the free version) share this anonymously with other people.

That said, one thing I’m missing from my Trello board is versatility. I want to be able to record/update my experience/interview status with a company and then see that information represented in several different ways. Seeing a swim lane representation of interview stages is helpful (where Trello shines) but it also might be helpful to see it in spreadsheet form where I can sort based on certain attributes. Sometimes things don’t fit well in swim lanes.

One thing I do like about Trello is that I can basically journal about my experiences there, though it would be nice to see all my journal entries together in one place, rather than being forced to see them separated by card.

Feel free to reach out to me if you have more questions: bradydowling at gmail

Re: Show HN: CRM for Your Job Search

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Post by mgkimsal »

Had looked at this space years ago, and had built something - initially for myself, but had tried to get others to use it.

It was a weird scenario - people who probably needed it most either were too overwhelmed (and possibly jobless at that moment in time) with various application processes and "didn't have time" to learn something "new", or... tried it and "meh, I only apply to a couple places, I don't need to keep that much info".

An 'integrated' process would be great, but even ... 7-8 years ago, a lot of places were moving to automated candidate/submission HR systems, and doing email submissions was already locking you out of many applications. That was another piece of feedback - I have to put all this info in to job site ABC - duplicating it is too much work.

I was considering trying to monetize - but again, the people who seemed to need it most also had the least money (jobless, etc). Unsure how to get past that dynamic.

I learned far more about oauth/email integration than I wanted to (and half of that is probably useless now). I remember coming to the conclusion that, while google/gmail was a pain to use, they did at least let you do useful stuff. Yahoo and Outlook web mail integration stuff was painful to use and was extremely limited in comparison.

Mid 2000's time period, I ended up doing a job search that took me well over 100 outreaches, and took 3-4 weeks to get anything remotely close to fruitful. It was, essentially, a full time job for those weeks. The next time I was thinking I would have to go through that again, I built the version of what referenced above - initially for myself, then opened it up and solicited some feedback.

I was focusing more on the sending of the emails directly, with open tracking, email templates (search/replace with custom cv links, etc). Broader status tracking was there but not as visualized as what it seems this project is doing (and it looks nice from the screenshots).

Best of luck to you.

Re: Show HN: CRM for Your Job Search

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Post by joshuamcginnis »

Nice work! This is really cool. Does it have the ability to create job "profiles" so that you can create different sets of application data to use in different (but often related) jobs? I think that'd be a really cool feature, as well as auto-generating or suggesting content for job titles, description, etc.

Re: Show HN: CRM for Your Job Search

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Post by admangan »

InvaderFizz wrote: post #38

Looks interesting, hopefully a bit better than the spreadsheet I normally use in my hunting process. Unfortunately it looks like either something is botched with your Oauth Credentials for the project, or maybe you hit a rate limit. I'm getting the following when attempting to sign in with Google. Error 400: redirect_uri_mismatch The redirect URI in the request, https://www.account.kiter.app/api/1.1/oauth_redirect, d…

Thanks for sharing. I think this is because we just transferred the app to account.kiter.app whereas previously it was simply kiter.app, but I forgot to update on Oauth. Thanks for pointing this out, it should be fixed now!

Re: Show HN: CRM for Your Job Search

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Post by xyzelement »

When does the data of this CRM become actionable? It feels to me like a lot of paperwork to maintain, but I can't see what one will do with it. What is the "value" of doing data-entry so I can see that I made it to one interview round at Company X? It's not like I can move myself onto Round two myself.

The nature of the interviewing process is that the company manages it, the candidate just needs to respond to the recruiter and make themselves available for the subsequent steps of the process.

Unless I am missing something?

Re: Show HN: CRM for Your Job Search

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Post by LanceH »

xyzelement wrote: post #46

When does the data of this CRM become actionable? It feels to me like a lot of paperwork to maintain, but I can't see what one will do with it. What is the "value" of doing data-entry so I can see that I made it to one interview round at Company X? It's not like I can move myself onto Round two myself. The nature of the interviewing process is that the company manages it, the candidate just needs to respond to the re…

Not looking at this, but one of the most important things I keep track of is meaningful interviews from specific recruiters/companies. The historical data from this will be interesting.

You're not always going through a recruiter or only a recruiter. Keeping track of all the names and contact info might pay off down the road as well.

Re: Show HN: CRM for Your Job Search

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Post by alex-wallish »

xyzelement wrote: post #46

When does the data of this CRM become actionable? It feels to me like a lot of paperwork to maintain, but I can't see what one will do with it. What is the "value" of doing data-entry so I can see that I made it to one interview round at Company X? It's not like I can move myself onto Round two myself. The nature of the interviewing process is that the company manages it, the candidate just needs to respond to the re…

I think this sort of thing is a lot more valuable for internship or new grad searches where candidates might apply to 50+ roles at once. I know of a similar job application crm that focuses just on those roles.

Re: Show HN: CRM for Your Job Search

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Post by web007 »

I've been waiting for someone (aka me) to build this for at least a decade! Ever since I saw the four-inch stack of paperwork a friend had for their applications, emails, resumes, appointment reminders and more it made sense to build a one-stop shop for managing all of that.

Good luck, and keep HN (or me directly, plz) informed of your success, difficulties, learnings, etc.

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