Does this include IE11.dll? (used by some internal MS tools as a renderer, eg: Office Add-ins)
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/office/dev/add-ins/concepts...
Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022
81–90 of 304 posts
Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
TIL - this is cool! Do you know if there's a way to see that XML list they mention anywhere publically? I can't find a link to it on that page. I guess it should be possible to spin up IE11 in a VM on macOS and inspect the network, but would be nice to take a look and see which sites are on there.
https://edge.microsoft.com/neededge/v1
Perfect, thank you.
Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022
#83Maybe it will finally force people to upgrade away from IE11 in the Finance/Wealth industry.
Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022
#84I work on a SaaS app in the healthcare space where IE11 is the preferred browser, and was getting worried watching all of our favorite tools begin to completely drop IE11 support (Tailwinds, Bootstrap) - effectively punishing us for the sins our customers IT orgs. This brings me hope. But only a little. I’m sure they’ll find a way to keep running it.
Only hope is more and more services actually having the balls to drop IE11, e.g. Office 365. Imagine Google would not support IE11, I'm sure the pressure to upgrade these browser would be much higher (not sure about the health care space though)
This announcement is a much better hope: IE11 being replaced by edge, which will also have a modern rendering engine, which will be only one anyone needs to support.
Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022
#85I smell a lot of nostalgia in this thread, and rightfully so! IE has been a terrible browser, but it was our terrible browser. But fear not! Outlook still uses the HTML parsing engine from MS Word (!) to display your HTML emails, and it's not going anywhere.
When Outlook becomes a PWA (currently in test, I think it's probably two-three years from stable), it'll be rendering mail with all the functionality of Blink. Which depending on your point of view, means a sigh of relief or time to buy more RAM. https://www.windowscentral.com/project-monarch-outlook-web-u...
More RAM or worse performance? I doubt it, given the COM addons my employer stuffs in my Outlook client. Zipmail among others.
Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022
#86I smell a lot of nostalgia in this thread, and rightfully so! IE has been a terrible browser, but it was our terrible browser. But fear not! Outlook still uses the HTML parsing engine from MS Word (!) to display your HTML emails, and it's not going anywhere.
Going a bit further back, IE 5 and 6 were the best browser by far. Strange for me to think that my now-beloved Firefox has its heritage embedded in Netscape, which at the same time as IE5 was an absolute pig.
- ed
for some reason I have it in mind as IE5.5 specifically that was The Great IE.
Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
relegated to old grayhair horror stories. The real shame of IE's passing is that we'll forget the lessons we learned and therefore repeat that particular disaster. It's already happening. I'd be happy to relegate the nightmare of IE to old war stories... except the same thing is happening today! Different method, nearly the same end result. We nearly lost the damn open web to the horror of IE6 and the peak "embrace,…
> Unlike IE6's reign of incompetent terror, Chrome is actually a competent browser. Techies are embracing the takeover instead of fighting it. It's guaranteed to succeed. IE6 was also a good browser. It didn't stay a good browser over the 5-10-15 year lifespan it had (depending on who you ask) but at the time of release it was easily the best.
Arguably the best user experience in some ways- relative to other browsers at the time it "felt fast". Partly because it used native widgets instead of XUL like Mozilla, and also probably because various parts of it probably were loaded when Windows booted up.
But it was pretty bad in other ways: security, stability, etc.
Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
> IE + applets _were_ the best choice at the time Depends on the constraints. Qt was around and mature for many years in 2006. Ruby on Rails had it's first release mid 2004. Django mid-2005. Again it depends on the constrains, what you can "the best choice in 2006" is limping now. Meanwhile an app built in 2006 on Qt/RoR/Django would be on a platform that is currently still being considered for green field devt. With…
I don't think any of this was obvious in 2006.
I know! That's the gamble one makes choosing a language/dependency you cannot easily move away from.
But the lack of obviousness does not make IE+applets the best choice in 2006.
Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022
#89And yet when I see a site that asks you to use Chrome I know that the true spirit of IE lives on.
The other day I had a website accuse me of using an outdated version of Safari (I was using Firefox version 88).
The other day I had Google Drive tell me not to use IE (I was using Epiphany)