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Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by astura »

sequoia wrote: post #231
Kranar wrote: post #160

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Can you find a single reference stating that it's the most dense city or area in the world? I tried looking for one but failed. There are well over 10,000 cities in the world and Gaza City is likely among the top 500 for population density, which would put it in the top 5%. Do you generally call things out as being untrustworthy for claiming that the top 5% is among the highest in a rank?

Here is a single reference: https://www.middleeastobserver.org/2016/07/12/pcbs-reports-g... "Do you generally call things out as being untrustworthy for claiming that the top 5% is among the highest in a rank?" The reason I consider this claim "misleading" is that I never see the "one of the most densely populated..." phrase on stories about Paris, Kathmandu, Seoul or any of the hundreds of more densely populated are…

If Hoboken NJ was blurry on Google Maps they would also describe it as "one of the most densely populated areas of the world" because it's fucking weird that a place with such a population density would be blurry on Google Maps.

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by leephillips »

mastazi wrote: post #467
leephillips wrote: post #323

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Not really funny, as nouns in general do not have antonyms.

Generally nouns prefixed with mis- do; sometimes you just remove the mis- part eg. understanding vs misunderstanding, management vs mismanagement etc.

You make my point. Your examples are not pairs of antonyms. Management is not the opposite of mismanagement.

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by Teracotage »

Google also used to hide this Secret U.S. Drone Base in Saudi Arabia, yet MS maps showed it. Which could show who is more chummy with the government. 'The image of the airfield, available in Bing Maps, would be almost impossible to discover randomly. At moderate resolutions, satellite images of the area show nothing but sand dunes. Only on close inspection does the base reveal itself. In Google's catalog of satellite pictures, the base doesn't appear at all." https://www.wired.com/2013/02/secret-drone-base-2/

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by gataca »

golergka wrote: post #255
sequoia wrote: post #242

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Looking at the country list, I see Israel is the #5 most densely populated country in the world. And Bnei Brak is the #5 most densely populated city, far more densely populated than Gaza. Bnei Brak was hit by rockets this week. Can you link me to some articles that refer to "Hamas firing rockets on Bnei Brak, one of the most densely populated cities in the world"? Or "on israel, one of the most densely populated coun…

Same reason that this conflict always gets the same optics in international media — jewish lives are worth less. At first, as you don't want to believe it, you argue, you investigate, you really try to find any sane reason that while these things are happening on ground with you and your family, everybody else still sees a different picture, and then you just come to realisation that there's no other explanation for…

looks like you hit a nerve by correctly diagnosing the situation.

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by neycoda »

squeaky-clean wrote: post #97

Not really related to the article at hand, but I've been on a bit of a Google Maps binge the past couple weeks. I learned a few interesting facts, blurry Israel being one of them. Another strange thing I found that might not be super well known (I didn't know about it) is that all GPS data in China is offset by a nonlinear psuedo-random amount. If you turn on the satellite view in Google Maps and look at various citi…

> China uses GCJ-02, sometimes called Mars Coordinates. Part of GCJ-02 is an algorithm that obfuscates the results

Why would a space agency use a coordinate system to obfuscate results on another planet?

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by sequoia »

bronzeage wrote: post #562
geofft wrote: post #371

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What's the phrasing you'd prefer? "Children were once again murdered in cold blood in Gaza, a metropolis that could be just like Singapore, Tokyo, or Hong Kong given its dense population and prime geographic location, were it not under constant military oppression from a country whose illegal nuclear weapons program is more successful than that of North Korea"? I think a lot of people would find that uncomfortably pa…

You mean that land which Israel withdrew from unilaterally, let it have a chance at prospering and instead of minding its own business they elected a terrorist organization, turned it into a millitary base and concentrated on firing rockets and kidnapping soldiers instead of showing they can responsibly control their land? Gaza is prime example of where Arabs and Palestinians tendencies lead them when left alone. Eve…

Downvoting because this is dehumanizing rhetoric, the kind used to rationalize all kinds of violence and oppression of a group of people. This kind of demonizing of one side or the other is exactly what I’m objecting to; both populations should be humanized and considered with empathy, neither side should be characterized as demonic or subhuman.

No progress will ever be made in resolving this conflict if one side or the other is dehumanized and has all the blame heaped on them. It is unfortunate that Gazans elected a party with an explicit platform of genocide against the Jews, yes. Its still not appropriate to dehumanize them is and it’s definitely not productive.

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by sequoia »

bronzeage wrote: post #566
betsushikime wrote: post #535

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Yes, the coverage of the conflict is one-sided and popular opinion is on the side of the Palestinians. The reason for that is that the conflict itself is one-sided. Gaza is occupied by Israel. Further, Israel has the overwhelming advantage in military power and the Palestinians suffer the overwhelming majority of casualties every time there is conflict. In the 2008-09 war, the total number of Israeli citizens killed…

Gaza is literally not occupied by Israel. Israel withdrew all troops and even banished their own citizens from Gaza. All the Palestinians had to do was not be absolute savages and attack Israel after being given their land with no strings attached. Every single restriction put of Gaza was a direct result of the Palestinian's abuse of the disengagement to fire rockets and kidnap soldiers. All they had to do was simply…

@dang how do you “report” comments?

BronzeAge: a lot of the facts you are reporting are true and you’re sharing an important perspective that’s missing in this conversation but your comment is turned into complete garbage by the fact that you’re dehumanizing the Palestinians and making yourself look like a genocidal idiot. Stop!! If you have useful criticisms and perspective to add (as you clearly do), add them, and leave out the racism and bloodlust. I don’t care how “accurate” the rest of your analysis is you can’t call a whole population savages, it’s the dehumanizing precursor to mass violence.

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by lacksconfidence »

betterunix2 wrote: post #555
lacksconfidence wrote: post #429

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The median age in palestine is (was, 2014) 18 years old. Compare to 30 in israel or 40 in france. Like it or not the vast majority of palestinians alive today had nothing to do with what hamas did 15 years ago. They were mostly children or not even born yet.

What does that have to do with the fact that Hamas derailed the peace process and continues to be the most significant obstacle to peace?

As far as i can tell you are advocating to punish the residents of pallestine because some time ago, when most of the current residents were either children or unborn, someone else did a bad thing.

To me that seems exceptionally unjust.

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by sequoia »

jakelazaroff wrote: post #313
sequoia wrote: post #296

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Ok I think I’m able to piece back together what you’re talking about: it sounds like you’re ranking Gaza on the list of most densely populated “Country (or dependent territory)” but excluding cities. The article refers to it as one of the most densely populated “places” in the world. What’s the reason for excluding cities when ranking the most densely populated places in the world? When I imagine “the most densely po…

Because Gaza is, for all intents and purposes, a city-state, like Singapore or Hong Kong. It’s not really one part of a larger nation, so it doesn’t make sense to compare it to places that are. It’s also being blockaded by its neighbors, so there is no freedom of movement in or out. If rockets are fired at Bnei Brak, the residents there can flee to the rest of Israel. If rockets are fired at Gaza, the residents have…

> If rockets are fired at Bnei Brak, the residents there can flee to the rest of Israel.

When rockets rain down on their homes, citizens of Bnei Brak can flee from their homes in car or on foot, go ??? somewhere (where exactly?) and hope they’re not blown to bits along the way. Wow, those privileged Israelis. The very lap of luxury.

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by cnlevy »

gokhan wrote: post #454
Zhenya wrote: post #396

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Yes. Because no one there has a smart phone. Because they actually killed the journalist. /s Of the course the obvious explanation is the correct one, the building housed military targets (Hamas operations etc) and it was destroyed.

IDF couldn't provide any evidence of Hamas' existence in that building, it was all over the media yesterday. https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1394287848950427649

The postman was late. It doesn't mean there's no evidence

https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1394631387265777666

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