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Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by geofft »

woodpanel wrote: post #279
sequoia wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looking at the country list, I see Israel is the #5 most densely populated country in the world. And Bnei Brak is the #5 most densely populated city, far more densely populated than Gaza. Bnei Brak was hit by rockets this week. Can you link me to some articles that refer to "Hamas firing rockets on Bnei Brak, one of the most densely populated cities in the world"? Or "on israel, one of the most densely populated coun…

Since this question revolves around words and their effect… "most populated" > "crammed" > "jailed" > "the new warsaw ghetto" there must be a word that describes your question of why : The word you're looking for also describes what's enabling the cognitive dissonance of putting Gaza in the same category as a Singapur, a Tokio or Hong Kong without blinking: Economic powerhouses that draw talent from developing and de…

What's the phrasing you'd prefer? "Children were once again murdered in cold blood in Gaza, a metropolis that could be just like Singapore, Tokyo, or Hong Kong given its dense population and prime geographic location, were it not under constant military oppression from a country whose illegal nuclear weapons program is more successful than that of North Korea"?

I think a lot of people would find that uncomfortably partisan, so news organizations tend to self-censor, unfortunately.

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by [deleted] »

woodpanel wrote: post #279
sequoia wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looking at the country list, I see Israel is the #5 most densely populated country in the world. And Bnei Brak is the #5 most densely populated city, far more densely populated than Gaza. Bnei Brak was hit by rockets this week. Can you link me to some articles that refer to "Hamas firing rockets on Bnei Brak, one of the most densely populated cities in the world"? Or "on israel, one of the most densely populated coun…

Since this question revolves around words and their effect… "most populated" > "crammed" > "jailed" > "the new warsaw ghetto" there must be a word that describes your question of why : The word you're looking for also describes what's enabling the cognitive dissonance of putting Gaza in the same category as a Singapur, a Tokio or Hong Kong without blinking: Economic powerhouses that draw talent from developing and de…

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Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by mcguire »

golergka wrote: post #255
sequoia wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looking at the country list, I see Israel is the #5 most densely populated country in the world. And Bnei Brak is the #5 most densely populated city, far more densely populated than Gaza. Bnei Brak was hit by rockets this week. Can you link me to some articles that refer to "Hamas firing rockets on Bnei Brak, one of the most densely populated cities in the world"? Or "on israel, one of the most densely populated coun…

Same reason that this conflict always gets the same optics in international media — jewish lives are worth less. At first, as you don't want to believe it, you argue, you investigate, you really try to find any sane reason that while these things are happening on ground with you and your family, everybody else still sees a different picture, and then you just come to realisation that there's no other explanation for…

Israeli lives are worth at least $400 / year each to the United States, given the $3.3B annual aid and a population of 9M. Since 2007, when the US stopped economic aid, it's been entirely military aid. (https://explorer.usaid.gov/cd/ISR)

In total, Afghanistan gets more, $4.9B, but that only comes to $129 per Afghan. (That's the "you break it, you bought it" plan, I guess.) The next highest is Jordan, $1.7B or $170 per each. (Yeah, we're paying for both sides of this dust-up.) So I think we can agree that Jewish lives are worth quite a lot. Just wish they could get along with their neighbors.

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by sudosysgen »

slg wrote: post #346
DSingularity wrote: post #334

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Well, you actually don’t know the facts. Did Jews live there before the British? Yes. But what you don’t mention is that they were under 8% of the total population. Of course, given what you already omit, you also omit that those 8% owned only 2% of the land. So tell me, why would the 92% accept that so much of what is rightfully theirs would be forcefully taken from them and given to a minority population? Especiall…

I don't know where your numbers are coming from, but they are at the very least misleading because the population was not exclusively made up of Jews and the group we now call Palestinians and not all land was privately owned. EDIT: I rephrased this to more clearly explain my point.

I don't understand your argument. Jewish Palestinians plus non-Jewish Palestinians do make up 100% of Palestinians.

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by Xixi »

chii wrote: post #365
rhizome wrote: post #364

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Hey, I'll bite: they are a thousands-year old country who has seen nations like the US and protectionist strategies like IP law come and go for centuries. They probably know what the US is going to do before the US knows what they're going to do, and certainly before the US knows what CCP is going to do.

> they are a thousands-year old country china, the ethnicity, is indeed thousands years old. CCP, however, is barely over 70 yrs old.

Nickpicking: the CCP foundational congress was held on 23 July 1921, making it 100 years old in a couple of month. The Red Army was founded on 15 July 1927, which is why it is generally assumed (seriously or not, I don't know) that China aims at reuniting with Taiwan before 2027.

But the CCP has been controlling mainland China for a little bit over 70 years, indeed.

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by xxpor »

ncpa-cpl wrote: post #339
xxpor wrote: post #266

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It's a similar law to what's discussed here. The justification is protection from NK.

Could it be a licensing issue? Naver Maps has really good street view and very accurate maps in SK. https://map.naver.com/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/google...

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by iratewizard »

mastazi wrote: post #308
seniorivn wrote: post #267

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only if you have misconception about what ccp and other one party states actually are

> you have misconception and what's the "correct-conception"?[1] I'm curious because I get what parent means in terms of intellectual property issues in China but I don't get what do you mean from your comment, especially the fact that you include "other party states" - is it some sort of general rule that you're hinting at? [1] funny, I just realised that there is no antonym of "misconception"

Maybe he means that China is less like a country and more like an organized crime syndicate wearing a nation's clothes?

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by MyKneeGrows »

jussij wrote: post #355
plaidfuji wrote: post #342

This link title is extremely misleading to the point of being disingenuous and provocative. The title of the linked article is “Israel-Gaza: Why is the region blurry on Google Maps?”... because the entire Israel / Gaza / West Bank region is blurred in the exact same way. There is no preferential blurring of Palestinian areas. The clear answer is to prevent actors on both sides from using Google’s satellite imagery to…

Israel can get all the detailed imagery it needs by just launching a reconnaissance aircraft or drone. So on that basis I would say it only stops the Palestinians from getting imagery of the area. Now considering the fact Palestine only has rockets and not missiles, I doubt that imagery is of much value to them. Call me cynical, but I suspect the more important reason to keep these images blurred might be to stop the…

It's why they target news agencies such as AP. Now you can't get pictures on the ground. So we all have to rely on is low resolution maps to judge damage. "Security measures", or so they say.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by mcguire »

sequoia wrote: post #237
Kranar wrote: post #168

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So does OPs entire post. Gaza is, by all reasonable accounts, among the most densely populated areas in the world. There's no real reason to start questioning the credibility and trustworthiness of a news organization over the fact that Gaza is referred to as such, it's a very bizarre thing to fixate over.

Your point about my argument regarding BBC's credibility based on this one point is fair, I can see how my argument can reasonably be considered overstated. Your point about "fixating" (assuming you're referring to me) is not fair. If you want to accuse someone of being fixated on this point, please direct your critique at the BBC and other media outlets who repeat the phrase about Gaza and only Gaza (not all of the…

Perhaps you are overly sensitive to this issue? I've more often heard the phrase from the BBC in regard to Singapore or Hong Kong.

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by michaelmrose »

seanp2k2 wrote: post #330
NickNameNick wrote: post #310

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You'd also need to account for slope.

I’ll be overjoyed the day that the compass in the vehicle can tell my phone what direction the vehicle is pointed to avoid making a left instead of a right out of a driveway. Yes, there are solutions to these problems in theory, but in real-world application today they’re still pretty lame / inaccurate, and the solutions still seem far away (try getting a few auto mfgs to agree to a standard way of communicating a co…

I've used a phone that didn't have a built in compass and one that does. The one that has an actual compass knows which direction I'm facing even without moving. The one that didn't would usually have no idea until I started moving.

They make external GPS units that plug into your car and connect to your phone wirelessly for example Garmin GLO that are supposed to improve accuracy although I haven't used one myself and thus can't vouch for it.

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