Evolving beyond 100B recommendations a day at Reddit • Hacker News Board

Re: Evolving beyond 100B recommendations a day at Reddit

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Post by commandlinefan » Tue, May 18, 2021, 2:21 AM UTC

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #71

zitterbewegung wrote: post #43

I didn't realize that Reddit even recommends you content. And I can't tell the difference between before and after these recommendations are coming in. The blog post feels like one that Youtube made about their recommender system and how it improved but, their recommender system doesn't work. Reddit has been sort of this weird place where they face the issues that Digg and Twitter have and want to slowly transition i…

Reddit's recommendations are total garbage. But YouTube is actually even worse. For instance, Eddie Van Halen recently died. So I clicked on a few links from Twitter to check out some concert highlights from his life and career. Now my entire YouTube recommendations feed is nothing but Van Halen and 1980s rock music. The Go-Go's recently got inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I clicked on a few links from…

YouTube has been recommending me pregnancy videos for over a year now. My youngest child was born in 2006.

Re: Evolving beyond 100B recommendations a day at Reddit

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Post by manigandham » Tue, May 18, 2021, 3:46 AM UTC

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #71

zitterbewegung wrote: post #43

I didn't realize that Reddit even recommends you content. And I can't tell the difference between before and after these recommendations are coming in. The blog post feels like one that Youtube made about their recommender system and how it improved but, their recommender system doesn't work. Reddit has been sort of this weird place where they face the issues that Digg and Twitter have and want to slowly transition i…

Reddit's recommendations are total garbage. But YouTube is actually even worse. For instance, Eddie Van Halen recently died. So I clicked on a few links from Twitter to check out some concert highlights from his life and career. Now my entire YouTube recommendations feed is nothing but Van Halen and 1980s rock music. The Go-Go's recently got inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I clicked on a few links from…

Youtube's algorithm has a major recency bias. Whatever topics and channels you last watched will be constantly recommended forever until you forcefully change.

Re: Evolving beyond 100B recommendations a day at Reddit

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Post by moistly » Tue, May 18, 2021, 4:36 AM UTC

zitterbewegung wrote: post #43

I didn't realize that Reddit even recommends you content. And I can't tell the difference between before and after these recommendations are coming in. The blog post feels like one that Youtube made about their recommender system and how it improved but, their recommender system doesn't work. Reddit has been sort of this weird place where they face the issues that Digg and Twitter have and want to slowly transition i…

> It feels like they just want you to use the App so you have to look at their advertisements.

I browse using iOS Safari in privacy mode. Over the past few months Reddit has been doing everything they can to discourage that, including blocking me from reading threads by throwing up a non-dismissible modal with the bogus statement “We cannot verify this content yadda”, preventing sub-comment expansion, and screwing with the URL made available to the iOS share via messages.

The latter is just stupid: instead of the URL for the thread, they substitute the Reddit homepage. Instead of being able to track which of the links I send are interesting to the recipients, they get no useful info whatsoever, and discourage me from attracting eyeballs to their product. It’s stupid, squared.

All they are really accomplishing is hardening my resolve to not give an inch. Eventually another popular headline & dopamine feed will come along and they’ll lose my eyeballs.

Re: Evolving beyond 100B recommendations a day at Reddit

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Post by anoncake » Tue, May 18, 2021, 4:58 AM UTC

TeMPOraL wrote: post #58

ipaddr wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An against hate subreddit that doubles as a hate factory against other threads? How modern..

You can't fight hate with hate; you can bet your top dollar that those who try end up being worse than the ones they fight against...

What's the appropriate feeling about hate/hate subreddits? Mild annoyance?

Re: Evolving beyond 100B recommendations a day at Reddit

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Post by londons_explore » Tue, May 18, 2021, 6:17 AM UTC

manigandham wrote: post #10

1024core wrote: post #7

I used to browse /r/india . Then one day Reddit recommended I check out /r/chodi (a sub full of memes and random talk). So I said sure, visited it, commented a couple of times. Next thing I know, I'm banned from /r/india. For participating in a sub that was recommended by Reddit itself ! And there's no appealing these bans.

Reddit has disclosed that even your upvotes on other posts and comments that they deem unsavory can be used to automatically ban you.

Most bans are done by moderators, and moderators don't have access to upvote information.

Re: Evolving beyond 100B recommendations a day at Reddit

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Post by floatingatoll » Tue, May 18, 2021, 6:20 AM UTC

thatfunkymunki wrote: post #17

antibuddy wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would shift the blame back to Reddit here, because they exposed data to mods that are completely unrelated to the subreddit. Another problem is the non-existing appeal process.

you're suggesting comments should not be visible on your profile? but visible on the page they are commented on? not sure how this would make sense.

That wasn’t what I read, but it’s a lovely idea. Is that something we can have?

Re: Evolving beyond 100B recommendations a day at Reddit

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Post by capableweb » Tue, May 18, 2021, 8:26 AM UTC

commandlinefan wrote: post #81

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit's recommendations are total garbage. But YouTube is actually even worse. For instance, Eddie Van Halen recently died. So I clicked on a few links from Twitter to check out some concert highlights from his life and career. Now my entire YouTube recommendations feed is nothing but Van Halen and 1980s rock music. The Go-Go's recently got inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I clicked on a few links from…

YouTube has been recommending me pregnancy videos for over a year now. My youngest child was born in 2006.

My ads have slowly been progressing from medicine to planning your own funeral before you die, in order to save the hassle from your near and dear.

Sometimes I wonder if The Algorithm know something that we don't.

Re: Evolving beyond 100B recommendations a day at Reddit

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Post by hypertele-Xii » Tue, May 18, 2021, 9:04 AM UTC

throwaway3699 wrote: post #21

> Gazette: Feature Stores and Model Prediction Engine When did developers stop naming things properly and go straight to weird codenames? What is wrong with 'recommendation service'?

> What is wrong with 'recommendation service'?

Telling dozens of competing recommendation services apart somehow.

Re: Evolving beyond 100B recommendations a day at Reddit

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Post by capableweb » Tue, May 18, 2021, 9:23 AM UTC

climb_stealth wrote: post #80

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit's recommendations are total garbage. But YouTube is actually even worse. For instance, Eddie Van Halen recently died. So I clicked on a few links from Twitter to check out some concert highlights from his life and career. Now my entire YouTube recommendations feed is nothing but Van Halen and 1980s rock music. The Go-Go's recently got inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I clicked on a few links from…

"Am I prepared to get more of this recommended until the end of time?" I ask myself this question every time I watch a youtube video. A lot of them I watch with private browsing to avoid it. Though lately it feels like I'm getting stuff recommended despite the private browsing measure.

> Though lately it feels like I'm getting stuff recommended despite the private browsing measure

Absolutely, some of the recommendations seems to be recommended based on IP. I don't watch anime but I have friends that do, sometimes after they visit my place, I start getting ads for manga and anime for a few days, until they figure out I'm not actually interested in it.

I also browse stuff via Firefox Focus on my phone, and get related content recommended on my desktop just minutes after watching something for the first time on the phone.

Re: Evolving beyond 100B recommendations a day at Reddit

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Post by JohnWhigham » Tue, May 18, 2021, 1:26 PM UTC

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #71

zitterbewegung wrote: post #43

I didn't realize that Reddit even recommends you content. And I can't tell the difference between before and after these recommendations are coming in. The blog post feels like one that Youtube made about their recommender system and how it improved but, their recommender system doesn't work. Reddit has been sort of this weird place where they face the issues that Digg and Twitter have and want to slowly transition i…

Reddit's recommendations are total garbage. But YouTube is actually even worse. For instance, Eddie Van Halen recently died. So I clicked on a few links from Twitter to check out some concert highlights from his life and career. Now my entire YouTube recommendations feed is nothing but Van Halen and 1980s rock music. The Go-Go's recently got inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I clicked on a few links from…

The recommendation engine is indeed garbage, but the default related video algorithms are excellent. I wonder if there's some plugin that clears all cookie information on every YT page refresh. That would give a good vanilla YT experience.