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Re: Evolving beyond 100B recommendations a day at Reddit

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Post by at_a_remove »

1024core wrote: post #7

I used to browse /r/india . Then one day Reddit recommended I check out /r/chodi (a sub full of memes and random talk). So I said sure, visited it, commented a couple of times. Next thing I know, I'm banned from /r/india. For participating in a sub that was recommended by Reddit itself ! And there's no appealing these bans.

I can only imagine someone condescendingly explaining that this was a test of your ethical character. By participating in it or other subreddits, like /r/BigChungus, you exposed yourself as an agent of hate. And then someone who might as well have had their image traced for a picture on the also-banned /r/smuggies would say "The only winning move is not to play."

Between that sort of nonsense and the redesign, they've Digg-ed themselves a hole and as soon as a viable competitor appears, it might just collapse as catastrophically.

Re: Evolving beyond 100B recommendations a day at Reddit

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Post by antibuddy »

fastball wrote: post #9
1024core wrote: post #7

I used to browse /r/india . Then one day Reddit recommended I check out /r/chodi (a sub full of memes and random talk). So I said sure, visited it, commented a couple of times. Next thing I know, I'm banned from /r/india. For participating in a sub that was recommended by Reddit itself ! And there's no appealing these bans.

I'm not a big fan of Reddit as a company but that's not really their fault – that's a moderation problem (from the mods of /r/india). You liked the sub enough to comment in it so clearly it was a good rec!

I would shift the blame back to Reddit here, because they exposed data to mods that are completely unrelated to the subreddit. Another problem is the non-existing appeal process.

Re: Evolving beyond 100B recommendations a day at Reddit

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Post by thatfunkymunki »

antibuddy wrote: post #16
fastball wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not a big fan of Reddit as a company but that's not really their fault – that's a moderation problem (from the mods of /r/india). You liked the sub enough to comment in it so clearly it was a good rec!

I would shift the blame back to Reddit here, because they exposed data to mods that are completely unrelated to the subreddit. Another problem is the non-existing appeal process.

you're suggesting comments should not be visible on your profile? but visible on the page they are commented on? not sure how this would make sense.

Re: Evolving beyond 100B recommendations a day at Reddit

#18

Post by throwaway3699 »

antibuddy wrote: post #16
fastball wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not a big fan of Reddit as a company but that's not really their fault – that's a moderation problem (from the mods of /r/india). You liked the sub enough to comment in it so clearly it was a good rec!

I would shift the blame back to Reddit here, because they exposed data to mods that are completely unrelated to the subreddit. Another problem is the non-existing appeal process.

There is no technological solution to most social problems, and you can hardly expect Reddit to mediate social problems like ban appeals at scale (I mean, you can, but it won't happen for $ reasons).

Most of the big subreddits are co-opted by toxic, power-mad moderators, or completely devoid of moderation entirely. A complete purge & reset wouldn't be a bad idea.

Re: Evolving beyond 100B recommendations a day at Reddit

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Post by ardfie »

danudey wrote: post #6
mdoms wrote: post #5

Reddit is literally the last organisation on Earth I would take engineering advice from. I appreciate they are operating at a very large scale and that has its own challenges, but it is by far and away the worst engineered product I use. I really do mean from soup to nuts, Reddit is just garbage software. The modern front end is obviously and plainly terrible. The backend is slow and suffers very frequent downtime, o…

I'll add to this: of every website I use which recommends me things based on other things, Reddit does it the absolute worst. It's so bad that they have literally never recommended me a subreddit which was actually relevant to my interests. My favourite instance was when they assumed I liked "programming", based on having (accidentally, once) visited the /r/f5networks subreddit, so they suggested the Europa Universal…

Reddit’s recommendations can be sharply contrasted with YouTube’s, which I frequently find useful and novel.

Re: Evolving beyond 100B recommendations a day at Reddit

#20

Post by caslon »

at_a_remove wrote: post #11
1024core wrote: post #7

I used to browse /r/india . Then one day Reddit recommended I check out /r/chodi (a sub full of memes and random talk). So I said sure, visited it, commented a couple of times. Next thing I know, I'm banned from /r/india. For participating in a sub that was recommended by Reddit itself ! And there's no appealing these bans.

I can only imagine someone condescendingly explaining that this was a test of your ethical character. By participating in it or other subreddits, like /r/BigChungus, you exposed yourself as an agent of hate. And then someone who might as well have had their image traced for a picture on the also-banned /r/smuggies would say "The only winning move is not to play." Between that sort of nonsense and the redesign, they'v…

I don't think so. I don't like reddit, but none of this is actually meaningful. Their active user rate has gone up exponentially since the redesign. People getting banned globally is standard on other social media networks, and the vast majority of redditors aren't banned from any subreddits (with actual global site bans being incredibly rare, too).

There's no reason that reddit would collapse if they maintain the status quo, because the status quo (while worse) is still better than 90% of other sites on the internet. The average quality of user has gone down, but that's inevitable online.

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