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Re: Lima: Linux-on-Mac

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Post by bostonsre »

vereis wrote: post #212
bostonsre wrote: post #95

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I kind of think similarly on the subject. They make some beautiful hardware, but I've never been able to get comfortable on macos. I love linux, but that also has some drawbacks when running that as your desktop or laptop. I have been really liking WSL on windows 10. I don't need to worry about installing stuff on windows, but having linux as my shell has been pretty great. I wouldn't call it just a better integrated…

I found the start up time for powershell to be quite noticeable in WSL for scripts like that. If copying is all you're after you can invoke `clip.exe` instead. Honestly though I just caved and ended up using an xserver with WSL for really smooth copy and paste support. Paste requires a powershell invocation without an xserver. Definitely recommending X410 (paid) or VcrXsrv (free) -- let's you launch x11 apps too! Onc…

What latency do you get? Haven't checked, but would guess I see ~100ms. I've been using centos 7 with bash.

Re: Lima: Linux-on-Mac

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Post by dmitriid »

smoldesu wrote: post #346
dmitriid wrote: post #217

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SFTP. Novice users. Why would a novice user want SFTP built-in to their file manager?

SFTP is a protocol, and "novice users" are actually using it every day without realizing it.

Right... When and where they would use it without realizing it?

Re: Lima: Linux-on-Mac

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Post by TimTheTinker »

da39a3ee wrote: post #259
phamilton wrote: post #2

Is IO still going to be horrible here? Docker on a linux VM, with all code on the linux VM, is significantly faster than Docker for Mac. Generally just because of IO.

With VSCode you can develop on mac with your code in a docker volume, so no need for the code syncing that you're referring to.

Even without code syncing, running more than 5 or so Docker containers can eat up a lot of RAM and even more CPU. It's just not worth it - put them all in a Linux VM.

Re: Lima: Linux-on-Mac

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Post by hutrdvnj »

jorl17 wrote: post #350
hutrdvnj wrote: post #302

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What has to happen so that you would try to make the switch to linux again?

I believe the main drivers would be: 1. Give me a laptop that you can ASSURE ME runs linux amazingly well and in which I can instantly feel has the polish of mac hardware. I'm talking battery life, the amazing feeling of the butterfly keyboard, the trackpad (and respective software to enable it), the solidity of the device and overall ergonomics. Give me "Retina" HiDPI displays! This is definitely one of the top reas…

Okay, based on what is important to you I think that Apple does fit your needs best.

Re: Lima: Linux-on-Mac

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Post by rcarmo »

moshmosh wrote: post #146
zepto wrote: post #137

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> if they got a boot loop I have literally never seen a boot loop on a Mac. How would that even come about?

This poster gets it. I use macOS because there's about 1/10 the likelihood that I'll have to burn half a day fixing its fuck-ups as there is with Windows and Linux. And I did plenty of that for years before ever seriously using a Mac. Nowadays when I check in on the Linux desktop to see how it's doing now, I notice how easy it is to get into the old habits of "oh this is pretty good, just a little tweak and I can get…

try Elementary.

Re: Lima: Linux-on-Mac

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Post by d3nj4l »

honr wrote: post #348
d3nj4l wrote: post #274

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> I sometimes have 100+ editor, terminal, and browser windows. Linux has many window managers up to the task (i3, xmonad, openbox, and countless more). Mac has the default one which you CAN'T change. This is so much my issue. I love i3wm, it's been a revolution for how I work. I never really understood the "desktop" concept with overlapping windows very much, and i3 works at an abstraction that is very close to how I…

I keep checking Amethyst every couple of years. Still not remotely comparable to i3 or other linux window managers. For one, it's extremely slow. I think it is about two orders of magnitude slower to say, move to another desktop/Space, than most (all I used, really) Xserver window managers. The "Caveat" on the yabai's README page has been enough to deter me away (or rather, make it strictly impossible for me to try i…

Ah, the SIP requirement for yabai isn’t that important IMO. They detail it in their wiki [1]. Incidentally, I tried it out since making the comment, and even without SIP disabled I’ve got it close to where I want it to be. It’s still not as great as my custom i3 setup was, but a few more weekends might get it to a much more comfortable place.

1: https://github.com/koekeishiya/yabai/wiki/Disabling-System-I...

Re: Lima: Linux-on-Mac

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Post by phamilton »

amatecha wrote: post #301
phamilton wrote: post #286

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Oh, I have. My setup is now Remote VS Code to a Linux NUC that sits on my desk. All code lives on the NUC and all tests run on the NUC, but I can use my MacBook Pro as I move around the house, work outside, etc. It's pretty seamless, I'm impressed.

Oh what… by "Remote VS Code" are you referring to this? https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/remote-overview Seems very handy indeed!

Yeah, the VSCode UI runs on my Mac, but it runs a vscode remote server on my NUC. Debugger, tests, etc. all run on my remote machine.

I originally did this in a Linux VM, but got tired of the battery hit that running a VM 24/7 has.

Re: Lima: Linux-on-Mac

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Post by da39a3ee »

TimTheTinker wrote: post #353
da39a3ee wrote: post #259

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With VSCode you can develop on mac with your code in a docker volume, so no need for the code syncing that you're referring to.

Even without code syncing, running more than 5 or so Docker containers can eat up a lot of RAM and even more CPU. It's just not worth it - put them all in a Linux VM.

They are in a linux VM! The only possible place a docker container can ever be on a Mac laptop is in a linux VM.

Re: Lima: Linux-on-Mac

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Post by TimTheTinker »

da39a3ee wrote: post #358
TimTheTinker wrote: post #353

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Even without code syncing, running more than 5 or so Docker containers can eat up a lot of RAM and even more CPU. It's just not worth it - put them all in a Linux VM.

They are in a linux VM! The only possible place a docker container can ever be on a Mac laptop is in a linux VM.

Right, but it's not the same VM for all docker containers. And disk IO is synced, which eats up a lot of CPU.

Re: Lima: Linux-on-Mac

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Post by 1764927 »

laumars wrote: post #303
tokamak-teapot wrote: post #188

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I wouldn’t say I work with files a lot, but when I do, Finder seems to work ‘fine’. What do you find ‘appalling’ about it? If I’m missing the option to make my life much easier by using an alternative I’d like to at least try something else out.

You can’t input paths for starters. That means you can’t open dot files or navigate dot directories. Of which there are a great many in FOSS. The answer is to open up a terminal and run ‘open .blah’, which is just an appalling work around to a simple problem. Even Windows handles this use case better and that’s saying something.

CMD+Shift+. reveals hidden files in Finder.
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